Oct 3 Practice notes. Gilbert rejoins main group

[Paulie Walnuts]

Coleman as a 4th liner seems a bit out of place. He has a big deal, but he is a good player that can provide valuable offence.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Coleman as a 4th liner seems a bit out of place. He has a big deal, but he is a good player that can provide valuable offence.

Coleman can positively impact the game no matter where he plays in the lineup.

He is still likely to get around 13-15 minutes a game due to PK and will slide up with Backs when the match ups aren't playing on our favour.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Almost looks like Schwindt is a placeholder for someone. But nobody is injured?

Probably Pelletier and play Ruzicka or Dube at C.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by dammage79

In my mind it's Zary.

It's going to be interesting to see if he gets cut once again after outperforming other players for a spot like last year's camp simply because of waiver status.

It leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth when a kid earns a job when the organizational mandate has been "jobs are open for kids to take" .

As an organization you have to what is best for the club and the player.
Zary has one full year of pro hockey.
If you see him as a top six player and he needs to continue to work on his pro game then you send him down to work on his game and develop.
Having him play on the fourth line because he is better than other bottom line options does not make sense at all.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Coleman as a 4th liner seems a bit out of place. He has a big deal, but he is a good player that can provide valuable offence.

I suspect it was to give other guys a chance in the top nine. Coleman’s spot on the team is secure and he has nothing to prove. When the regular season starts, I expect him to be in the top nine more often than not.

[heep223]

I honestly wouldn't be reading into the lines at all.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know the lines wont settle in for a bit but they should be having reps now for the lines they plan to start with.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Wouldn't be opposed to seeing Coronato on the 1st line honestly. He could drive that line, but would likely end up getting hardest defensive pairings for sure.

Mangiapane hasn't looked too good on any line yet this pre-season, not sure how he continues to get an extended look. I'd argue Dube has better chemistry with both Lindholm and Huberdeau.
Still worried about Markstrom, he hasn't had a real good game yet and looked like his old self last night.

Sounds like the D are set - Was hoping Solovyov would have had more of a look but it would appear the coaching staff have given it to Oesterle to start.

Hopefully Mangiapane has, like, 2 more gears.

Funny enough when he was playing much better his game was similar to Coronato's. Hard on the puck, knows how to get into open areas and get the puck off his blade with haste.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

Every year teams figure it out and every year I wonder how. This year is no exception. How are they going to get under the Cap?

They are over by $213,333 now with a 22 man roster including Pelletier and Kylington. With Pelletier out, the Flames are only at 11 forwards. Have to add at least one and that one should be a center. Rooney is the most expensive and puts the Flames $1.5MM over. Any of the other guys (Schwindt, Zary, Hunt, Klapka, etc) puts the Flames around ~$1MM over. Adding two of the guys in brackets would put them around ~$1.8MM over.

The easy answer is Kylington on LTIR. But, what if he comes back? Pelletier can go on LTIR as well I think, but he is definitely coming back.

Coronato and Pelletier don't have to clear waivers, but I doubt they're going down anyway (don't think Pelletier can while injured). Would Oesterle, Gilbert, Ruzicka clear waivers?

Like I said, the easy answer is Kylington on LTIR. Trade someone of course is another option, but not many teams can take on salary without returning some. I wonder what the plan will be if Kylington regains his health and is able to return.

I know the Flames aren't the only team in this position. Waiver wire could get interesting. Not sure the Flames can show any interest though.

Kylington is not coming back.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Schwindt or Rooney?

Need to see a bit of truculence from either one. It won't replace Lucic's, but you need a bit of that on the fourth line. Checking often leads to pushback.

Thinking that’s going to come more from the D this year. None of the forwards are really bruisers.

Gilbert, big Z and Weegar

[Mr.Coffee]

They should trade Mangiapane

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

They should trade Mangiapane

If we’re in a playoff spot and he’s not playing like a 5.8m player he will absolutely be the guy that is moved.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

They should trade Mangiapane

The weakest spot on the Flames roster is on the wings. Unless you’re getting a top six winger back then I fail to see the logic in this, especially in that a top six winger will likely be eating more cap than Mang is.

Unless the logic is sell everything then I get that.

[FusionX]

I know it'll never happen but...

Huberdeau - Lindholm - P. Kane
Dube - Kadri - Sharangovich
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato
Ruzicka - Schwindt - Duehr
Klapka/Hunt

Weegar - Andersson
Zadorov - Oesterle
Solovyov (ideally Kylington) - Tanev
Gilbert

Markstrom
Wolf

Lindholm is re-signed, Zadorov and Tanev not until post-season, mangiapane, vladar and hanifin for cap + futures.

Win cup. Patrick Kane becomes the Kawhi of Calgary.

Next season, replace Kane with Coronato. Peltier back and slides to left of Backs with Coleman on the R.

Lose Tanev to UFA, re-sign Zadorov. Still have assets from Mang/Hanifin deals.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FusionX

I know it'll never happen but...

Huberdeau - Lindholm - P. Kane
Dube - Kadri - Sharangovich
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato
Ruzicka - Schwindt - Duehr
Klapka/Hunt

Weegar - Andersson
Zadorov - Oesterle
Solovyov (ideally Kylington) - Tanev
Gilbert

Markstrom
Wolf

.

Even if Kylington started practicing now, I doubt he's ready for day one.

[Toonage]

Re: Kylington

To miss a full year and two training camps?

Its not looking good.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Re: Kylington

To miss a full year and two training camps?

Its not looking good.

I'm usually an optimistic person but I think his NHL days are behind him. Maybe he can play on an SHL team down the road and be closer to home.