Main Camp Day 1 - Kylington will not take part of first day of training camp

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

What's the deal?

We don't need details but it would be nice to get a timeline, or an LTIR move if he's not coming in any time soon.

The perpetual question mark around his current/future role on this team is the frustrating and puzzling thing for fans.

Oliver, please issue this man a personal apology

[PepsiFree]

I think it’s pretty normal to wonder what’s going on with the player, but I also think that’s been sufficiently answered for anyone with a healthy curiosity.

The obsessive, entitled aspect side of this just generally strikes me as gross and weird. It would be no more gross and weird to feel frustrated or demand information about actual “celebrities” like Kim Kardashian or Taylor Swift. Can you imagine how fast a 35 year old man would be laughed out of the room if he said “They cancelled Keeping up with the Kardashians citing Kim’s mental health, which I find really frustrating because I feel like they owe it to us to tell us the diagnosis”? Well, imagine him doing the exact same thing for a middle-pairing player in a middle-market team on the fourth most popular sport in North America.

He’s not playing. Be an adult and get over it.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

The club has a responsibility to the fans, to not treat them as morons. A year of being kept in the dark about a player who was tipped to explode and become an extremely important defenceman is completely disrespectful.

I'm sick of the smoke and mirrors and carefully worded PR nonsense, enough already. What is the problem with this guy?

If you work in an office and the person sitting next to you has not come in for a year but is still being paid, would you not ask questions about that?

Originally Posted by jayswin

Entitlement as a fan.

Wow. You absolutely nailed it.

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[PuckSlap]

The dog piling is amazing. God forbid anyone ask a question around here without being ridiculed.

Oliver was talking about how he was feeling better, and of course we expected him to be back. So, when suddenly he isn't able to, almost last minute, of course people want to know why. Nothing wrong with asking questions, it's a professional sports league, in the public eye.



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[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

The dog piling is amazing. God forbid anyone ask a question around here without being ridiculed.

Oliver was talking about how he was feeling better, and of course we expected him to be back. So, when suddenly he isn't able to, almost last minute, of course people want to know why. Nothing wrong with asking questions, it's a professional sports league, in the public eye.



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Yup that’s it. Just a question, and they are always all ridiculed equally.

It’s a message board with hundreds of active posters. You say something dumb, a bunch of people are all going to respond individually. This constant complaining about “dog-piling” sounds so pathetic. It’s push back, it happens when you say things a lot of people disagree with.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

The dog piling is amazing. God forbid anyone ask a question around here without being ridiculed.

Oliver was talking about how he was feeling better, and of course we expected him to be back. So, when suddenly he isn't able to, almost last minute, of course people want to know why. Nothing wrong with asking questions, it's a professional sports league, in the public eye.



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I don't mind the dog piling, but I do fear some people's critical thinking skills are woefully underdeveloped.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

The dog piling is amazing. God forbid anyone ask a question around here without being ridiculed.

Oliver was talking about how he was feeling better, and of course we expected him to be back. So, when suddenly he isn't able to, almost last minute, of course people want to know why. Nothing wrong with asking questions, it's a professional sports league, in the public eye.



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Asking questions is fine. Demanding answers—like a petulant child—deserves to get called out.

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[PuckSlap]

hE hAs A mEnTal hEalTh dIsOrDeR sO sHuT uP bIgGoTs!

Ya, Welcome to the past 3 years. Covid, brink of nuclear war, and the god damn Barbie movie.

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[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Asking questions is fine. Demanding answers—like a petulant child—deserves to get called out.

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Why ask a question if you don't want to know the answer?

And as for the point about entitlement, I pay my money to support the club and league. In return, I don't ask for a winning franchise (clearly), but I do expect the Flames to be transparent with something like this. No games, no PR, just keep me abreast of what's happening with a guy who could, one day, help us win something.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

hE hAs A mEnTal hEalTh dIsOrDeR sO sHuT uP bIgGoTs!

Ya, Welcome to the past 3 years. Covid, brink of nuclear war, and the god damn Barbie movie.

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What does this even mean?

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

hE hAs A mEnTal hEalTh dIsOrDeR sO sHuT uP bIgGoTs!

Ya, Welcome to the past 3 years. Covid, brink of nuclear war, and the god damn Barbie movie.

The smoothest of brains

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

I don't mind the dog piling, but I do fear some people's critical thinking skills are woefully underdeveloped.

This has nothing to do with critical thinking. All of us can see the myopic entitlement on display here.

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[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

What does this even mean?

Everyone has a mental health problem now.

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[cam_calderon]

Again with the point about entitlement. So, as paying fans, you are saying we're not entitled to updates on players? Ok, then.

[SutterBrother]

I am super curious about what is going on, and amy DYING to find out.

But after this length of time it’s been tight lipped for so long it is clearly:
1) Super significant. He didn’t last a day.
2) Is not going to be disclosed any time soon.

Mentally move on as you would with any prospect who desn’t make the show. None of our business.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Again with the point about entitlement. So, as paying fans, you are saying we're not entitled to updates on players? Ok, then.

Do you think paying fans are entitled to absolutely all information about the club? I don’t.

The club has said it is a personal matter and no further updates will be provided. That’s the update

None of our business

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Why ask a question if you don't want to know the answer?

Except that is not what you did. This thread gets bumped every few days with a question about whether there is any news, and, so far, the answer is, "No.," and that's enough.

Clearly, that answer is not good enough for you, because you seem to think that by spending your time, emotion and money on the team, this somehow entitles you to guarantees of disclosure of certain information. For god's sake, you called it "disrespectful" that you were not getting answers you feel like you deserve. In the response below you have the temerity to insist that your financial support (whatever that amounts to) makes the team beholden to you.

And as for the point about entitlement, I pay my money to support the club and league. In return, I don't ask for a winning franchise (clearly), but I do expect the Flames to be transparent with something like this. No games, no PR, just keep me abreast of what's happening with a guy who could, one day, help us win something.

I hate to break it to you, but the Calgary Flames don't owe you anything beyond icing a team to play 82 games this season. Oliver Kylington owes you even less than that.

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[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Again with the point about entitlement. So, as paying fans, you are saying we're not entitled to updates on players? Ok, then.

Perhaps a better way to frame this so you might understand it is...

Let's say you work for Apple.

If I buy an IPhone, does that mean I get to know about your personal medical history, because I'm a paying customer, after all?

I see "Out due to personal reasons" just like I see "Upper Body Injury".

[Paulie Walnuts]

Kind of early to be drinking.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Again with the point about entitlement. So, as paying fans, you are saying we're not entitled to updates on players? Ok, then.

No! You are not. As a fan, you are paying to watch hockey games. That is all.

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