Main Camp Day 1 - Kylington will not take part of first day of training camp

[cam_calderon]

Well let me ask you a question: what would've happened if his deal was up before this season? What will happen next summer if he still hasn't stepped on the ice?

If he was released to be a UFA, and there was no proper explanation from Conroy, would that be a-ok?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Well let me ask you a question: what would've happened if his deal was up before this season? What will happen next summer if he still hasn't stepped on the ice?

If he was released to be a UFA, and there was no proper explanation from Conroy, would that be a-ok?

It would not be “without explanation”. It would be “for personal reasons we are not at liberty to disclose “. And yes, that’s fine.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

The club has a responsibility to the fans, to not treat them as morons. A year of being kept in the dark about a player who was tipped to explode and become an extremely important defenceman is completely disrespectful.

I'm sick of the smoke and mirrors and carefully worded PR nonsense, enough already. What is the problem with this guy?

If you work in an office and the person sitting next to you has not come in for a year but is still being paid, would you not ask questions about that?

Kylington already addressed it himself. He is battling mental health issues and there isn’t much left to explain. It’s pretty clear from the presser that doctors did not think it was a good idea for him to play.
Are you expecting them to release his exact diagnosis and treatment plan?

[Party Elephant]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Kylington already addressed it himself. He is battling mental health issues and there isn’t much left to explain. It’s pretty clear from the presser that doctors did not think it was a good idea for him to play.

Are you expecting them to release his exact diagnosis and treatment plan?

tHeY oWe iT tO uS!

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Kylington already addressed it himself. He is battling mental health issues and there isn’t much left to explain. It’s pretty clear from the presser that doctors did not think it was a good idea for him to play.
Are you expecting them to release his exact diagnosis and treatment plan?

I must have missed this. Where did he disclose this?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

What's the deal?

We don't need details but it would be nice to get a timeline, or an LTIR move if he's not coming in any time soon.

The perpetual question mark around his current/future role on this team is the frustrating and puzzling thing for fans.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

What's the deal?

We don't need details but it would be nice to get a timeline, or an LTIR move if he's not coming in any time soon.

The perpetual question mark around his current/future role on this team is the frustrating and puzzling thing for fans.

Why are you frustrated. He's not available. Get over it.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

What's the deal?

We don't need details but it would be nice to get a timeline, or an LTIR move if he's not coming in any time soon.

The perpetual question mark around his current/future role on this team is the frustrating and puzzling thing for fans.

LTIR doesn’t matter unless the Flames need to go over the cap and it’s better to not use it until you have to. I do wonder if they toll his contract this year though.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

What's the deal?

We don't need details but it would be nice to get a timeline, or an LTIR move if he's not coming in any time soon.

The perpetual question mark around his current/future role on this team is the frustrating and puzzling thing for fans.

There is never a timeline for mental health issues.

[Redlan]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

I respect Oliver's privacy, but as an NHL player in the spotlight he can't maintain the same level as John Smith the O&G engineer. At some point the truth must come out. It's been over a year now.

No…”the truth must not come out”. That is a privacy issue; should your own health records be available for public consumption?

One could only hope that at some point during his recovery, he may feel comfortable enough to inspire others suffering similarly, but that’s up to him. This is his challenge to face, his priority should be his own welfare, not to appease others.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bonded

LTIR doesn’t matter unless the Flames need to go over the cap and it’s better to not use it until you have to. I do wonder if they toll his contract this year though.

Can they? Isn’t he effectively considered “injured”?

I am really unsure.

They didn’t toll his contract last year.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Can they? Isn’t he effectively considered “injured”?

I am really unsure.

They didn’t toll his contract last year.

I think that’s cause they thought he was coming back. I’m not really sure what the mechanics are but the Blue Jackets tolled Texier’s contract.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Bonded

LTIR doesn’t matter unless the Flames need to go over the cap and it’s better to not use it until you have to. I do wonder if they toll his contract this year though.

This year however, I could easily see the Flames trying to acquire another defenseman. Without Kylington, they are left without much depth.

Especially if an injury occurs

I would not be surprised to see player moved to LTIR,

Flames in parallel acquire a dman

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Redlan

No…”the truth must not come out”. That is a privacy issue; should your own health records be available for public consumption?

One could only hope that at some point during his recovery, he may feel comfortable enough to inspire others suffering similarly, but that’s up to him. This is his challenge to face, his priority should be his own welfare, not to appease others.

I've already addressed this. I am not a famous multimillionaire, no one would care to know about my health.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Can they? Isn’t he effectively considered “injured”?

I am really unsure.

They didn’t toll his contract last year.

Montreal for example placed Drouin on LTIR in 2021when he left for private reasons

[GioforPM]

It’s not that Kylington can’t be put on LTIR. They don’t need to put him there. There’s no benefit unless they hit the cap.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s not that Kylington can’t be put on LTIR. They don’t need to put him there. There’s no benefit unless they hit the cap.

True, however they could easily hit the cap, as they are technically over the cap currently.

They will be very close to the cap when the roster is announced

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by flambers

True, however they could easily hit the cap, as they are technically over the cap currently.

They will be very close to the cap when the roster is announced

And when they need to go over the cap, they’ll put him on LTIR.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

What's the deal?

We don't need details but it would be nice to get a timeline, or an LTIR move if he's not coming in any time soon.

The perpetual question mark around his current/future role on this team is the frustrating and puzzling thing for fans.

Exactly! Everyone knows the well established timelines for mental health issues to recover your brain bones and ligaments:

Mild depression: 4-6 weeks

Suicidal thoughts: more like a 2-3 month thing.

Generalized anxiety disorder: we're lookin' at 6-8 months, but need to wear a brain brace after.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

And when they need to go over the cap, they’ll put him on LTIR.

Well yes, that's what I said above. My guess he is placed on LTIR,

In parallel Flames bring in a defenseman.