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Old 09-24-2023, 11:13 PM   #101
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After seeing the rosters I thought that the Flames were in a no win position. Putting up 10 put that to bed. They won as expected, in a fashion that was as good as you could. Top grade for a preseason game. The chefs kiss was sitting beside Canuck fans that paid to watch that.
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:19 PM   #102
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Missed the game. Did anyone not look good?
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:23 PM   #103
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What did the canucks learn tonight?
That if they lose Pettersson, Boeser, Kuzmenko, Garland, Beauvilier, Bluger, Mikheyev, Di Giuseppe, Hughes, Hronek, Soucy, Cole, Myers, Wolanin, Demko and DeSmith to injury all at once... they're going to get absolutely wrecked.
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Useless fact: Flames tied or outscored 5 NFL teams today
Now if only they could outscore the dolphins one game
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:29 PM   #106
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I wouldn't have played my near opening lineup for the first exhibition. It should be used to evaluate and make cuts. Who is this false confidence for?

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I wouldn't have played my near opening lineup for the first exhibition. It should be used to evaluate and make cuts. Who is this false confidence for?

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The Flames have 2 games tomorrow, so virtually everyone will have played by this time tomorrow...
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After months and months without hockey, and first game back, pre-season or not, a 10-0 win, AND there's still complaint. Who would have thunk?
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Isn't it pretty typically in preseason for visiting teams to ice an inferior roster? I assumed it was by design because it usually seems like the case. I always thought there was a gentleman's agreement to let the home team have the roster advantage in preseason. The visiting teams players gets a trial by fire and the home team crowd is entertained.

Regardless, you still rarely see whoopings like this.
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What is going on in the box score? 7-3 Canucks and the wrong logo everywhere.
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After months and months without hockey, and first game back, pre-season or not, a 10-0 win, AND there's still complaint. Who would have thunk?
Who are you talking to?!
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Isn't it pretty typically in preseason for visiting teams to ice an inferior roster? I assumed it was by design because it usually seems like the case. I always thought there was a gentleman's agreement to let the home team have the roster advantage in preseason. The visiting teams players gets a trial by fire and the home team crowd is entertained.

Regardless, you still rarely see whoopings like this.
The ass whooping is funny, and the Canucks deserved it putting that roster on the ice.

The only pet peeve I have with the situation is that NHL teams try to sell tickets for these games at prices way out of line with the product they are putting on the ice.

If you are going to be selling lower bowl tickets for $250 to a preseason game, then have teams dress at least 10 NHL regulars per game.

The corporate greed really gets exposed when you are charging fans an arm and a leg to watch half of their team play Pius Suter and Mat Irwin...
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The ass whooping is funny, and the Canucks deserved it putting that roster on the ice.

The only pet peeve I have with the situation is that NHL teams try to sell tickets for these games at prices way out of line with the product they are putting on the ice.

If you are going to be selling lower bowl tickets for $250 to a preseason game, then have teams dress at least 10 NHL regulars per game.

The corporate greed really gets exposed when you are charging fans an arm and a leg to watch half of their team play Pius Suter and Mat Irwin...
That's always been the case and it won't change. The issue isn't general ticket sales it's season tickets. Every NHL ownership group knows that adding 4 or so pre-season games at full price doesn't sway season ticket buyers so they just do it.

It's absolutely absurd but season ticket buyers want the season tickets and the cost is obviously spread over the whole 46 games they pay for so they don't notice it as much. These numbers will be way off, but the point remains - NHL teams have two options 1) don't include pre-season in season tickets and sell all seats or; 2) force season ticket holders into pre-season games and sell the rest at regular season prices so the season ticket buyers don't revolt.

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Old 09-25-2023, 12:31 AM   #116
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include with season tickets -

14000 (estimate for the league) season ticket holders at full regular season price at an average of $100 per ticket = $1.4mil in revenue PLUS whatever dozens or hundreds of suckers pay full price for a pre-season game.

don't include with season tickets and charge relative to how valuable a pre-season game actually is and what fans would pay, let's say $40 a ticket with no season ticket base. Let's assume 6k fans would pay an average of $40 per ticket = $240k (and judging by the Dome, and free tickets, that's probably generous).

Pre season game are all about ****ing over season ticket holders no ifs ands or buts. And it works, and they can't discount regular tickets while screwing over season ticket holders so it won't change. The model isn't broken, it's just that the model doesn't help the fan, as is usually the case.

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That's always been the case and it won't change. The issue isn't general ticket sales it's season tickets. Every NHL ownership group knows that adding 4 or so pre-season games at full price doesn't sway season ticket buyers so they just do it.

It's absolutely absurd but season ticket buyers want the season tickets and the cost is obviously spread over the whole 46 games they pay for so they don't notice it as much. These numbers will be way off, but the point remains - NHL teams have two options 1) don't include pre-season in season tickets and sell all seats or; 2) force season ticket holders into pre-season games and sell the rest
It hasn't always been the case though. In 06/07 I went to an Oilers preseason game and there were maybe 2500 tops in attendance. Maybe 5 years later the building was 70% full for preseason. I feel like 10-15 years ago teams slipped preseason into the season ticket holder package and no one batted an eye.

I'm curious if this is the case for all NHL teams or just for the most part Canadian teams because the owners know the fans are fanatical/suckers?
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It hasn't always been the case though. In 06/07 I went to an Oilers preseason game and there were maybe 2500 tops in attendance. Maybe 5 years later the building was 70% full for preseason. I feel like 10-15 years ago teams slipped preseason into the season ticket holder package and no one batted an eye.

I'm curious if this is the case for all NHL teams or just for the most part Canadian teams because the owners know the fans are fanatical/suckers?
An Oilers preseason game in Edmonton or Calgary? I was a Flames season ticket holder starting in 2005/06 and we definitely paid full price for pre season then. So paying full price for pre season is at least 18 years old in Calgary. *Unless things have changed in recent years?

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