2022 Freedumb Convoy(s) Thread

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

That's pertaining to your child. General public isn't hearing the curriculum.

CBC, CTV., Global, print media 100% should be reporting what the curriculum **actually** is.

That way if there's anything sideways it should be corrected. Note: I learned with medical terminology in grade 3, not slang, although I would fully expect the teacher to confirm slang; like if Little Johnny asks if a p***y is a vagina, the teacher should confirm but continue to use the medical term.

Also, the public that is outraged that they're showing 5 year olds gay porn can be reassured that ain't happening.

They better also remind us every night that they aren’t teaching flat earth theory in geography class….

You can’t constantly placate to the dumbest tiny group of society.

[PepsiFree]

Does anyone actually believe these people would trust mainstream media on what is “actually” taught in schools?

If they had children in school, of an age to actually start learning any of this, they would know what was being taught. And if they didn’t, they could simply ask the teacher. But they don’t. Why do you think that is?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1705317296879616176



Comments by Cons and Liberal leaders on protest marches.

What a ####ing loser

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

That's pertaining to your child. General public isn't hearing the curriculum.

CBC, CTV., Global, print media 100% should be reporting what the curriculum **actually** is.

That way if there's anything sideways it should be corrected. Note: I learned with medical terminology in grade 3, not slang, although I would fully expect the teacher to confirm slang; like if Little Johnny asks if a p***y is a vagina, the teacher should confirm but continue to use the medical term.

Also, the public that is outraged that they're showing 5 year olds gay porn can be reassured that ain't happening.

Why do you have to waste time and effort then trying to satisfy a bunch of morons of obvious stuff. The majority of the general public isn’t naïve enough to believe porn is being played to kindergarteners. This is how society is being dumbed down by playing to the lowest IQ. In the good old days, they’d be mocked and laughed at.

Anyway, say the full curriculum was reported on, these idiots will still not be satisfied with it. They’ll either latch onto some term they don’t fully understand and twist it into something sexual, or they just won’t believe that’s really what’s being taught and start barging into schools.

edit: from the first link if you search “cbe curriculum”

https://curriculum.learnalberta.ca/p...iculum/en/home

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

That's pertaining to your child. General public isn't hearing the curriculum.

CBC, CTV., Global, print media 100% should be reporting what the curriculum **actually** is.

That way if there's anything sideways it should be corrected. Note: I learned with medical terminology in grade 3, not slang, although I would fully expect the teacher to confirm slang; like if Little Johnny asks if a p***y is a vagina, the teacher should confirm but continue to use the medical term.

Also, the public that is outraged that they're showing 5 year olds gay porn can be reassured that ain't happening.

That's the thing - if you don't have a kid currently in school at a level where they're being educated about sexuality, you're not likely to know what that education looks like, and the media isn't filling that information in for you.



And while it strains common credulity to believe that kids are being shown pornographic images or what have you, you have anecdotes like FlamesAddiction's above that fall short of that, but are still fair cause for concern among reasonable people.



There's definitely some full on wacko conspiracy-theory stuff going on here of course, but there are also elements that are fair subjects for parental interest and disagreement among reasonable people. But if those people have to have a kid at the right level of education, or have to go hunting for information about curricula themselves in order to have a window into what's actually being taught, how, and at what stage of education, it doesn't help resolve the conflict or the spread of misinformation.

[Fuzz]

Can't teach kids about reality, but can teach them they'll burn in imaginary hell for eternity if they touch themselves. Got it.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

And while it strains common credulity to believe that kids are being shown pornographic images or what have you, you have anecdotes like FlamesAddiction's above that fall short of that, but are still fair cause for concern among reasonable people.

I am not saying FA’s anecdote sounds unbelievable, but is there some more background here? I think that is probably a little young to be going over slang terms, but what group was providing this session and what was the context of using the slang? Was it a “stranger danger” thing or were kids asking questions cause they heard an older kid say “boner” and wanted to know what that meant.

[Reggie Dunlop]

The sort of hate that is festering will eventually find a violent outlet.

[The Fonz]

Is this kind of tension happening in other countries? Or just a Canadian thing?

[ripTDR]

Combine kids being tech savvy and free porn on demand, I would be shocked that no matter how diligent a parent is, kids will find it at any age, which could lead to crazy conversations

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by ripTDR

Combine kids being tech savvy and free porn on demand, I would be shocked that no matter how diligent a parent is, kids will find it at any age, which could lead to crazy conversations

It’s just not fair.

I like to think life lessons were learned in waiting a full week for Baby Blue 2 to air on CityTV.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

The sort of hate that is festering will eventually find a violent outlet.

Anti gay vandalism in Saint John New Brunswick yesterday, followed by rocks thrown at gay students in Kitchener.

It's ramping up to a new level, and Poilievre is throwing gasoline onto the fire in a vile cynical attempt to energize his core supporters. Perhaps he is hoping that moderate Canadians will forget about it two years from now when we head to the polls.

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[activeStick]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I hate when adults use children who don’t understand what they’re protesting to advance the beliefs of their parents.

Yup. I'd take this further with a small revision and say that I hate when adults force children into a faith system when they don't understand it, to advance the beliefs of their parents.

[Locke]

These people need a hobby like knitting or axe-throwing or something.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

The middle school that I went to had a trans-student get curb stomped the first week of class.

Why can't we go back to the "Don't be a d***" philosophy?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Kids learn from the bigoted parents and will take it out on their peers.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I am not saying FA’s anecdote sounds unbelievable, but is there some more background here? I think that is probably a little young to be going over slang terms, but what group was providing this session and what was the context of using the slang? Was it a “stranger danger” thing or were kids asking questions cause they heard an older kid say “boner” and wanted to know what that meant.

For what it is worth, the teacher did send out an email with more information and there was an option to opt out. I am not even saying that I disagree with the approach, because I am not an expert on education. It was just kind of shocking, but I'm not necessarily against it. I put a lot of trust in the system and assume the content and techniques have been researched by qualified people.

If you are curious, this is the 3rd party educational group that goes around to the schools to teach sex ed in the Vancouver area.

https://www.saleemanoon.com/


Here is the exact material they emailed out to the parents. It's a downloadable PDF, so only click if you don't mind downloading the brochure.

https://www.saleemanoon.com/download...stv=1687242364

They don't talk about teaching slang, but it is pretty intensive. The checklist says they expect pre-schoolers to know about things like periods and wet dreams, which seems young to me, but again, I am not an expert. I do know that some parents opted their kids out. I find it lacking that they don't have a single male educator in that whole group though, but just my opinion.

[timun]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I find it lacking that they don't have a single male educator in that whole group though, but just my opinion.

Lack of male teachers is a systemic problem throughout our education system.

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

For what it is worth, the teacher did send out an email with more information and there was an option to opt out. I am not even saying that I disagree with the approach, because I am not an expert on education. It was just kind of shocking, but I'm not necessarily against it. I put a lot of trust in the system and assume the content and techniques have been researched by qualified people.

If you are curious, this is the 3rd party educational group that goes around to the schools to teach sex ed in the Vancouver area.

https://www.saleemanoon.com/


Here is the exact material they emailed out to the parents. It's a downloadable PDF, so only click if you don't mind downloading the brochure.

https://www.saleemanoon.com/download...stv=1687242364

They don't talk about teaching slang, but it is pretty intensive. The checklist says they expect pre-schoolers to know about things like periods and wet dreams, which seems young to me, but again, I am not an expert. I do know that some parents opted their kids out. I find it lacking that they don't have a single male educator in that whole group though, but just my opinion.

Now that is super helpful (the PDF in particular). It provides real detail about topics at each level so a parent can largely understand what subjects are on the table at what ages.

But, like you, there are things on that list that give me significant pause. Why, exactly, would a 4 year old need to know about periods and wet dreams - things they have no context for or experience of, and won't for another 5 years (at least)?

I think lots of normal parents would look at that list and have some questions (which might have satisfactory answers, or might not). But at least it gives everyone a base of Information about the programming to work from.

[TheIronMaiden]

I agree it seems young, no less, because of the internet, children are able to interact with pornography and sexuality at a much younger age. They will need to know about it before it messes up their psychology.