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Old 09-14-2023, 10:28 AM   #1461
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So what's the over/under, do they finish the meeting on the affordability task force's recommendations this week or does it carry into next week with 23894723986123 speakers?
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I think last I saw there were ~140 speakers signed up. Could go into Saturday potentially.
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Old 09-14-2023, 02:24 PM   #1463
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Livestream is here if anyone wants to listen in
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Old 09-14-2023, 04:04 PM   #1465
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Noted racist drunk Dan McLean suggesting a plebiscite here
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Is McLean drunk right now?
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Old 09-15-2023, 08:58 AM   #1467
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Livewire Calgary with their writeup of day one:

https://livewirecalgary.com/2023/09/...ithout-a-home/
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:24 AM   #1468
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100% (!) of the speakers on day one spoke in favour of the affordable housing strategy. What really struck me though was the diversity - you had representatives from the business community, developers, non-profits, advocacy organizations, and individual citizens from seemingly every walk of life. I expect today will be a bit more mixed but if I was sitting on council I don't know how you could vote against it in good conscience after hearing all of that.
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I'd just assume that McLean and Chu are locks to be against it all, nothing will change their course. Chabot possibly too.
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I'd just assume that McLean and Chu are locks to be against it all, nothing will change their course. Chabot possibly too.
McLean, Chu for sure are no. Chabot, Sharp, 99% chance they're a no as well.
Wong leans "no" but I feel like there's some hope he could flip to a yes. We'll see I suppose.
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I think it's a done deal, but the bigger question is whether these measures actually have the required impact.
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Old 09-15-2023, 10:07 AM   #1472
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McLean, Chu for sure are no. Chabot, Sharp, 99% chance they're a no as well.
Wong leans "no" but I feel like there's some hope he could flip to a yes. We'll see I suppose.

Wong will vote for whatever he thinks will make him more money as a landlord in Briar Hill, as usual. Terry's looking out for Terry.
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Old 09-15-2023, 10:08 AM   #1473
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Wong will vote for whatever he thinks will make him more money as a landlord in Briar Hill, as usual. Terry's looking out for Terry.
I feel like Terry is being very careful with a lot of stuff, he was only around 25% of the vote to get elected. He could definitely be an incumbent that could be in trouble next election if he is on the "wrong" side of a lot of these very public debates.
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As we start deliberations on how we best address Calgary’s housing crisis, #yyccc has just received this letter of support from the federal minister of housing @SeanFraserMP - we will jeopardize or lose federal funding if we do not approve the full strategy. We must act now.

https://twitter.com/jyotigondek/stat...621320528?s=21
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I feel like Terry is being very careful with a lot of stuff, he was only around 25% of the vote to get elected. He could definitely be an incumbent that could be in trouble next election if he is on the "wrong" side of a lot of these very public debates.

Wong is out there glad-handing every day and he's trying to walk the line on controversial issues in the media. But, he still definitely has an anti-development agenda because he thinks it makes money for him. He has a regular meeting with a small group of prominent Calgary NIMBYs (You can probably guess who) to talk about defending restrictive covenants and preventing density development in the city.
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Opinion: Affordability doesn’t have to cost us democracy

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...t-us-democracy


Frano Cavar:

��I feel compelled to respectfully disagree with the sentiment expressed by the former Councillor - my old boss. No, I don't think changing how we do land-use redesignations cost us "democracy". A thread:

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...157088624?s=21


First and foremost, our democracy and common-law system is founded on protecting individual property rights. Therefore, in theory, everyone should have the right to do what they want with their land. Zoning of course limits that right. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...958805607?s=21


I don’t understand how expanding the right of people to build duplexes, triplexes, or row housing on their land costs us “democracy”. After all, your land rights are on your parcel, not your neighbours. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...795939645?s=21

In any event, Council already approves 95 percent of land-use redesignations - so why add to the red tape by maintaining the existing redesignation process? #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...528125877?s=21

I remind you folks, the “C” in RC-G zoning stands for “contextual” - any new developments in existing communities must fit within the context of their communities. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...423996124?s=21

What an awesome opportunity it is for concerned neighbours to get involved and voice their concerns in the development permit phase of these projects. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...240146106?s=21

Four years ago, I wrote my master's capstone at @policy_school on land-use redesignations. At the time I wrote, if the City ever wants to get serious about its MDP goal of 50 percent growth in new communities, building in established areas is inevitable. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...244999123?s=21

TLDR, If people want to redevelop and build on their land parcels, the City should be making it easier, not harder to do so. As Pierre Pollierve would say, we don’t need gatekeepers slowing down new housing. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/franocavar/statu...956356959?s=21
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"Buying a house doesn’t include the right to encase the neighbourhood in amber and stop change if it upsets your aesthetic sensibilities" writes @maxfawcett in response to @JeffDavisonYYC's recent op-ed
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As we start deliberations on how we best address Calgary’s housing crisis, #yyccc has just received this letter of support from the federal minister of housing @SeanFraserMP - we will jeopardize or lose federal funding if we do not approve the full strategy. We must act now.

https://twitter.com/jyotigondek/stat...621320528?s=21

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Basically, some members of council are so afraid of wealthy homeowners that they'll jeopardise millions and millions of dollars in federal funding to appease them... during a housing crisis. #yyccc

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Do we know how many "would be" projects are held up by zoning issues at this point? In other words, how impactful will this rezoning be?
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Old 09-15-2023, 10:48 AM   #1480
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Do we know how many "would be" projects are held up by zoning issues at this point? In other words, how impactful will this rezoning be?
There's probably some projects that don't even get considered because developers realize they don't have a chance of getting zoning.

I know I for one am finally going to be able to build a townhouse community/drug rehab facility on Elbow Drive backing on to the Calgary Golf & Country club, which I previously wouldn't have considered possible.
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