2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Bonded]

Tanev is also a guy teams will overpay for if he is healthy at the deadline. A bit of a risk for the Flames but I don't think they shop him outside of a severe overpayment till the deadline. Same with Backlund

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Tanev is also a guy teams will overpay for if he is healthy at the deadline. A bit of a risk for the Flames but I don't think they shop him outside of a severe overpayment till the deadline. Same with Backlund

I love tanev, but yes trading him should definitely be on the table at the deadline. Unless we are top 2 in the division I guess.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Even if Tanev slows down or the injuries really start taking affect, he'll still be effective with his hockey sense and GAF-level. For example, Willie Mitchell was just as injury prone and a worse skater, but still managed to be effective until age 37 playing a similar type of game

Tanev's contract history doesn't suggest that he'd be looking to cash in either. He's only ever signed reasonable contracts. If Conroy can get Tanev for another 3-4 years @ $3.5M, I think the Flames should do it even though the AAV is a little risky. In a worst case scenario if Tanev's game falters, move him down to anchor the bottom pairing instead of the second pairing.

I would actually be very happy if we could sign Tanev to the same contract he just had $4.5M x 4. IMO, he has been our best D over the last 3 seasons. He is a key reason behind a PK that has been top in the league. He also makes every partner better, and his pairing has always been the most reliable/consistent for the Flames. In fact, out of all our UFAs I want Tanev to re-sign the most.

I'm not too worried about injuries myself, because most of his injuries have been unrelated to one another up until this point. His shoulder is a bit of a concern, but we could always use LTIR if injuries become that much of an issue.

[Hackey]

4 years? He will be 34 at the start of this contract. 35 at the start of a new deal. That's pretty risky for him. I like the player but would definitely stay away from term. Honestly the ideal situation is he's healthy at the deadline and having a strong year. He would make a great rental in that situation and hopefully someone would overpay.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I would actually be very happy if we could sign Tanev to the same contract he just had $4.5M x 4. IMO, he has been our best D over the last 3 seasons. He is a key reason behind a PK that has been top in the league. He also makes every partner better, and his pairing has always been the most reliable/consistent for the Flames. In fact, out of all our UFAs I want Tanev to re-sign the most.

I'm not too worried about injuries myself, because most of his injuries have been unrelated to one another up until this point. His shoulder is a bit of a concern, but we could always use LTIR if injuries become that much of an issue.

I think you may be alone on that one. The team is looking to get younger. I have trouble seeing him being an effective player at $4.5 for four years. I think he's a good hit away from being on LTIR for the rest of his career - and that is from a person with a lot of respect for his toughness and way of playing the game. I suspect he's going to be offered one or two year contracts from here on out until he's done.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I love tanev, but yes trading him should definitely be on the table at the deadline. Unless we are top 2 in the division I guess.

No, they should be moving the pending UFAs, no matter if they are a wild card team or not.

Risk with Tanev, he play's a really hard style.

Will he be heathy at the tradeline (50/50)

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by NegativeSpace

I think you may be alone on that one. The team is looking to get younger. I have trouble seeing him being an effective player at $4.5 for four years. I think he's a good hit away from being on LTIR for the rest of his career - and that is from a person with a lot of respect for his toughness and way of playing the game. I suspect he's going to be offered one or two year contracts from here on out until he's done.

I agree with your risk assessment, and I understand it's not going to be a popular opinion. Tanev is just a guy I want on the team or around the team. That's the type of guy I personally wouldn't mind overpaying on the 3rd pairing.

It's mostly because of Tanev's extremely high hockey IQ, how well he does playing with prospects/young D. And Tanev's leadership on the ice. Age is definitely not ideal, but that's a player that leaves absolutely everything on the ice and doesn't take a shift off.

[kyuss275]

I loook up this thread 5 times a day hoping for hanifin rumours and leave disappointed every time.

[kehatch]

I don't think anyone should be making blanket statements such as "trade at the deadline no matter what". Let's say the Flames are in a secure playoff spot and a second round pick is on the table for Tanev or Backlund. How does the value of a second round pick weight against the alternative? What does it say to the players and coaching staff if they make that trade? What about future UFAs? How valuable are playoff games for the development of the young guys?

Sure, if Lindholm hasn't signed an extension and someone is offering a massive package you don't have much of a choice. But chances are we are going to lose some players for nothing next July and that isn't a terrible thing.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by kehatch

I don't think anyone should be making blanket statements such as "trade at the deadline no matter what". Let's say the Flames are in a secure playoff spot and a second round pick is on the table for Tanev or Backlund. How does the value of a second round pick weight against the alternative? What does it say to the players and coaching staff if they make that trade? What about future UFAs? How valuable are playoff games for the development of the young guys?

Sure, if Lindholm hasn't signed an extension and someone is offering a massive package you don't have much of a choice. But chances are we are going to lose some players for nothing next July and that isn't a terrible thing.

I would guess likely scenario, Flames are within a couple points either in or out of the playoffs at the time of the deadline. In a big group of teams.

IMO, they will move the players,

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I loook up this thread 5 times a day hoping for hanifin rumours and leave disappointed every time.

One rumor/speculation I've seen recently was Hanifin to Buffalo for Ryan Johnson(LD, 22y.o, picked 31st overall in 2019), and a 2024 1st.

Personally, I don't think Buffalo is a great fit.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

One rumor/speculation I've seen recently was Hanifin to Buffalo for Ryan Johnson(LD, 22y.o, picked 31st overall in 2019), and a 2024 1st.

Personally, I don't think Buffalo is a great fit.

I think Buffalo is a perfect trade partner- they own a plethora of outstanding young players and prospects. They would have to have to give us a lot more than Ryan Johnson though. If that's their best offer, perhaps they ARE a bad fit.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I loook up this thread 5 times a day hoping for hanifin rumours and leave disappointed every time.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I think Buffalo is a perfect trade partner- they own a plethora of outstanding young players and prospects. They would have to have to give us a lot more than Ryan Johnson though. If that's their best offer, perhaps they ARE a bad fit.

Sabres have Dahlin and Power on the left side. Can't see how adding Hanifin makes them better.

If Buffalo doesn't make the playoffs this year, the entire front office gets launched into the sun.

@gvitaly is bang on with his thoughts.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Sabres have Dahlin and Power on the left side. Can't see how adding Hanifin makes them better.

If Buffalo doesn't make the playoffs this year, the entire front office gets launched into the sun.

@gvitaly is bang on with his thoughts.

First of all, I wasn't by any means attacking gvitaly like the tone of your post implies. I very much respect him.

Secondly, it wasn't me who suggested trading Hanifin to Buffalo- the discussion was started by some rumors and speculation. Indeed, Hanifin's name has come up a ton in connection to the Sabres. Perhaps you should argue your case to all the rumor mongers on the internet, as they must not be aware.

Thirdly, defensemen play their off-side quite regularly in the NHL, though it may not be ideal. This past season, Dahlin played a lot on the right side on a formidable pairing with lefty Samuelsson, and had his best season as a pro on both sides of the puck. They've played Dahlin and Power together as well, but apparently it didn't work as well.

[Flames1217]

Buffalo is more than likely looking for someone like Tanev instead of Hanifin.

Buffalo is already stacked on the left side and have a very young defensive corps. Adding Tanev would add leadership, sound defensive play and could serve as a mentor for all of thier youngsters. He is exactly what they are missing.

When you consider price vs needs, Tanev makes a lot more sense for them.

[Number 39]

Tanev is reaching the “series of one year contracts” stage of his career IMO.

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1701597242434674927

Krug injuried. I think we are going to see a market open up for defenceman as training camps kick off.

[Sec214]

Noah is either going home or to Florida.

Flames know there will be an injury this year by a teams top guy and they’ll be after a Noah on a rental. His agent has told most teams he’s interested in becoming a UFA and hitting the open market.

The market for Noah is drier then a nuns you know what…

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Noah is either going home or to Florida.

Flames know there will be an injury this year by a teams top guy and they’ll be after a Noah on a rental. His agent has told most teams he’s interested in becoming a UFA and hitting the open market.

The market for Noah is drier then a nuns you know what…

What if that nun is Benedetta?