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Old 09-10-2023, 10:40 AM   #121
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Relo to SLC makes some sense to me. It's not a great expansion market so you're not really hurting future expansion fees. You get the current clown show out of Phoenix so that it becomes a viable expansion market down the road for a different ownership group who have the ability to put together an arena deal.

I saw a recent video clip with the Coyotes president and he still talked about multiple options. Obviously they want some public funding (he let slip sales tax, which is a common funding mechanism for arenas in the US) but also want a situation where there is no public vote.
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:09 AM   #122
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The Utah Market for the NHL is small as hell. The arena would be worse than the Coyotes playing in Footprint Center if The Suns bought the team.

The current Coyotes ownership will essentially have 3 opportunities until Gary Bettman gives Mat Ishbia and the Suns a call.

The Coyotes aren't leaving the Phoenix market.

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edit: Logan Cooley will win the Calder
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:12 AM   #123
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A team in Salt Lake City would be hella fun.
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:20 AM   #124
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Whatever makes you feel better about it. LOL I'm not in denial - But the Coyotes are one arena away from being a world class operation. Show and prove but it's true. The owner has the money and the city is a one of the best places to live during the NHL season.
I actually think with the right ownership group the market could be really successful.

I also don't think Meruelo has done anything to signal that he's the right owner that can actually make them a World Class organization.

His handling of the relationship of Glendale and the Tempe referendum has been terrible and not something that screams "World Class" at all.

Honestly the best chance to the Coyotes in Arizona would be Ishiba getting the franchise IMO.

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Old 09-11-2023, 09:29 AM   #127
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^Sadly the NBA's Orlando Magic would likely sue for trademark infringement if they called themselves the "Salt Lake City Magic Underwear".
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:52 AM   #129
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I actually think with the right ownership group the market could be really successful.

I also don't think Meruelo has done anything to signal that he's the right owner that can actually make them a World Class organization.

His handling of the relationship of Glendale and the Tempe referendum has been terrible and not something that screams "World Class" at all.

Honestly the best chance to the Coyotes in Arizona would be Ishiba getting the franchise IMO.
That's because he and his team don't know wtf they're doing.. but they're learning and have best interests at heart honestly.

They've done some great things but like you said, some horrible miscalculations along the way.

Ishbia/Suns is my dream and I do believe it will happen if that's the last resort but I do believe Meruelo and Crew can also get it done. The Tempe deal was a well thought out and put together deal but putting it to a vote again, was a horrible miscalculation.
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:58 AM   #130
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Utah is the Beehive State.

The Utah Swarm. You heard it here first.

Salt Lake City Swarm works too.

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Hopefully they'll use the traditional name: Sal Tlay Ka Siti
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While the Delta Center wouldn't be ideal for the NHL, it would still be more than triple the capacity of the ASU arena.

I know a new arena for SLC has been mentioned as part of their Olympic plan (for either 2030 or 2034), but I can't find any information about where such a project stands. It likely means any team in SLC would need to play at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Delta Center before a new arena would be available.

Of course, even if the Coyotes stay and build a new arena somewhere in Arizona, they'll probably be at ASU for 2 or 3 years beyond this season anyway.


It has been mentioned here before that during one of the recent renovations to the Suns' arena, the ice making equipment was removed to make way for a premium club area. If that's true, it would seem to make any suggestion of moving in with the Suns a non-starter.

Also, the Suns' owner would need to want to buy the team, which is something we know the Jazz owner wants.
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:31 PM   #137
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While the Delta Center wouldn't be ideal for the NHL, it would still be more than triple the capacity of the ASU arena.

I know a new arena for SLC has been mentioned as part of their Olympic plan (for either 2030 or 2034), but I can't find any information about where such a project stands. It likely means any team in SLC would need to play at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Delta Center before a new arena would be available.

Of course, even if the Coyotes stay and build a new arena somewhere in Arizona, they'll probably be at ASU for 2 or 3 years beyond this season anyway.


It has been mentioned here before that during one of the recent renovations to the Suns' arena, the ice making equipment was removed to make way for a premium club area. If that's true, it would seem to make any suggestion of moving in with the Suns a non-starter.

Also, the Suns' owner would need to want to buy the team, which is something we know the Jazz owner wants.
The Suns can add an ice plant, that's not the issue. It would actually be an interesting/creative club seat to be on the glass down below.

The Suns have a lease until 2037 I believe - not that far off from SLC Olympics. It would be easier for Ishbia to get an arena deal with 2 teams than 1.

His team is open to the conversation but the Coyotes aren't for sale currently.
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The Utah Market for the NHL is small as hell. The arena would be worse than the Coyotes playing in Footprint Center if The Suns bought the team.

The current Coyotes ownership will essentially have 3 opportunities until Gary Bettman gives Mat Ishbia and the Suns a call.

The Coyotes aren't leaving the Phoenix market.

These are my factual opinions..

edit: Logan Cooley will win the Calder
What constitutes an opportunity and what number are we at now?
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:39 PM   #139
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What constitutes an opportunity and what number are we at now?
I believe there will be 3 opportunities to acquire land. But if none of those are feasible it's 1-800-MAT-ISHBIA
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