Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I don’t know why. Maybe they dislike sky-high costs of living and high taxes. Maybe they just don’t like Justin Trudeau’s hair.
Who knows…!

Can you point to a liberal policy that can be directly linked to the sky high costs. basically of the these problems can be traced back to global macro effects or earlier conservatives policies.

Why does Alberta have the highest energy cost in the country? because of choices Klein made, followed by Kenny deciding to bury his head in the sand pretending we would never have to pay for something during a price surge, rather than dealing with structural problems in the existing programs, so that he would have more time to focus on investigations into anti-Albertan activities.

Why are food costs high? because supply bottlenecks created by covid, wars, droughts, climate change, and increasing standards of living around the developing world. Not exactly problems we pay a prime minister to fix single handedly.

Why are houses so expensive, because of a decades long war against public infrastructure waged by the right, and the rapidly declining ratio of public to private dwellings available.

Are you going to tell me that Canada shouldn't have moved with the US in terms of debt and interest policies over the past 3years, effectively destroying our ability to earn any real value from our exports, destroying first and foremost our O&G / Ag industries?

These aren't mysteries and no serious person looks at the past 4 decades of history and comes to the conclusion what these problems need is some phony libertarian who is at the end of a long line of people co-opting conservative movements and removing every once of conservativism from them, like PP.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by #-3

Can you point to a liberal policy that can be directly linked to the sky high costs. basically of the these problems can be traced back to global macro effects or earlier conservatives policies.

Why does Alberta have the highest energy cost in the country? because of choices Klein made, followed by Kenny deciding to bury his head in the sand pretending we would never have to pay for something during a price surge, rather than dealing with structural problems in the existing programs, so that he would have more time to focus on investigations into anti-Albertan activities.

Why are food costs high? because supply bottlenecks created by covid, wars, droughts, climate change, and increasing standards of living around the developing world. Not exactly problems we pay a prime minister to fix single handedly.

Why are houses so expensive, because of a decades long war against public infrastructure waged by the right, and the rapidly declining ratio of public to private dwellings available.

Are you going to tell me that Canada shouldn't have moved with the US in terms of debt and interest policies over the past 3years, effectively destroying our ability to earn any real value from our exports, destroying first and foremost our O&G / Ag industries?

These aren't mysteries and no serious person looks at the past 4 decades of history and comes to the conclusion what these problems need is some phony libertarian who is at the end of a long line of people co-opting conservative movements and removing every once of conservativism from them, like PP.

I guess the flood to CPC is just misguided, Liberals have done an amazing job.”it’s no one’s fault”

[ripTDR]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I guess the flood to CPC is just misguided, Liberals have done an amazing job.”it’s no one’s fault”

I think it kinda is. In my experiences with friends and family there is not a lot of love for JT and if he runs again as leader I think the fatigue is going to set in. Not because PP is an effective leader but more of a protest vote.

[btimbit]

Yeah, I see the Liberals losing just because people are ready for something different

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I guess the flood to CPC is just misguided, Liberals have done an amazing job.”it’s no one’s fault”

So thats it? No response to any of the points made, just a snide remark?

[Ozy_Flame]

Why do conservatives think dwindling support for JT is anything but voter fatigue? It's proven many times in Canada that 9 years in power is time for a change.

PP is not some great demagogue people want. He's just the convenient alternative to the status quo. Absolutely nothing more. Nothing to do with conservative values.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by #-3

Can you point to a liberal policy that can be directly linked to the sky high costs.

Corruption. Hundreds of millions / billions of dollars evaporating and unaccounted for? I feel like that would have an effect somewhere.

[FlamesAddiction]

Investors account for 30 per cent of home buying in Canada, data show

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...od%20in%202020.

Investors have become more prevalent in Canada's housing market accounting for 30 per cent of all residential real estate purchases in the first part of the year according to new data.

Over the course of the COVID-19 pandemic, investor buying has grown as soaring house prices ramped up interest in residential properties as an asset class.

Investors were responsible for 30 per cent of home purchases in the first three months of the year, according to data released by the Bank of Canada. That is up from 28 per cent in the first quarter of last year, and 22 per cent in the same period in 2020.

Meanwhile, the percentage of first-time homebuyers shrunk to 43 per cent in the first quarter of this year compared to 48 per cent in the same three months in 2020. Similarly, repeat buyers fell to 27.5 per cent from 30 per cent over the same period.

I will vote for whatever party and candidate that will put an end to this. How high does this need to go before something is done?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Slava

So thats it? No response to any of the points made, just a snide remark?

Stuff like this just made so much sense.

“ Why are houses so expensive, because of a decades long war against public infrastructure waged by the right, and the rapidly declining ratio of public to private dwellings available.”

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Why do conservatives think dwindling support for JT is anything but voter fatigue? It's proven many times in Canada that 9 years in power is time for a change.

PP is not some great demagogue people want. He's just the convenient alternative to the status quo. Absolutely nothing more. Nothing to do with conservative values.

Everyone loves being a Liberal in good times. Once their pocket book gets severely impacted it’s time to reconsider. That’s what your seeing now.

I guarantee if the inflation chickens were not coming home to roost he prob would have skated thru another election.

[Red Slinger]

Are you honestly suggesting 2015 to 2023 are considered the "good times"?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Are you honestly suggesting 2015 to 2023 are considered the "good times"?

For printing money without consequence they were.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Investors account for 30 per cent of home buying in Canada, data show

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...od%20in%202020.

I will vote for whatever party and candidate that will put an end to this. How high does this need to go before something is done?

This is a new tax that may help, I hadn't realized it existed until a few days ago. I think stuff like this is a good start.



https://www.canada.ca/en/services/ta...using-tax.html

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Corruption. Hundreds of millions / billions of dollars evaporating and unaccounted for? I feel like that would have an effect somewhere.

LOL, no amount of grifting could possibly lead to “sky high costs”.

But go ahead, show how this happened. Name the precise corruption first, then link it to cost of living.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Everyone loves being a Liberal in good times. Once their pocket book gets severely impacted it’s time to reconsider. That’s what your seeing now.

I guarantee if the inflation chickens were not coming home to roost he prob would have skated thru another election.

Inflation in Canada is lower than most places. The fact you think “he” has something to do inflation at all is amusing.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Inflation in Canada is lower than most places. The fact you think “he” has something to do inflation at all is amusing.

“He” is the Liberals and 100% their taxes and spending has caused the higher prices we pay for everything.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Yoho

“He” is the Liberals and 100% their taxes and spending has caused the higher prices we pay for everything.

What caused the higher prices in Turkey?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Yoho

“He” is the Liberals and 100% their taxes and spending has caused the higher prices we pay for everything.

Who knew the Liberals were in power worldwide.

Show me how taxes and spending cause higher prices, oh great economist.

Meanwhile:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9785875/s...year%20earlier.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

What caused the higher prices in Turkey?

Bird flu.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

LOL, no amount of grifting could possibly lead to “sky high costs”.

But go ahead, show how this happened. Name the precise corruption first, then link it to cost of living.

Well, the Liberal government is not transparent in any fashion with the books, where the money being questioned has been spent, or how or what they’re even really spending money on- so your question is not even answerable. I am just guessing, and I am certainly not a government finance expert, but something tells me when billions just disappear and other government programs and budgets still require funding, the money to fund those budgets still has to come from somewhere (borrowing).

Trudeau said a couple years ago, borrowing isn’t a big deal because interest rates are low. But now they’re rising, so now we are spending a disproportionate amount on borrowing costs we otherwise wouldn’t have maybe had to if those missing (we think? They won’t even say?) billions weren’t spent.