2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Poe969]

Hanifin to the Sabres, oloffson++ to the Flames, Kane signs in Buffalo.

[Royle9]

That ++ better be significant, Olofsson is a camp dump for Buffalo.
We have half a dozen Olofsson’s already.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Royle9

That ++ better be significant, Olofsson is a camp dump for Buffalo.
We have half a dozen Olofsson’s already.

Olofsson scored 28 last year on a 4.75 million cap hit. Hardly a cap dump. But he is 1 year from UFA, and does play a position we already should have filled with Huberdeau, Mangiapane, Pelletier so there isn't room for him but we definitely don't have half dozen of him.

[Saqe]

Oloffon is terrible, a total cap dump for Buffalo. Utterly useless outside the PP and carries a hefty cap hit. Bardon Pirri scored 22 goals in 49 games once and the Panthers couldn't give him away.

[Groot]

If he's a cap dump, Buffalo should be attaching an asset just to get rid of the cap, right? No team ever is giving up an asset to "dump the cap" of a 28 goal scorer with 1 year left at $4.75. Especially a team with a full roster and 8.7 million in cap space. Many teams would pay 4.75 for a 28 goal PP specialist.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Groot

If he's a cap dump, Buffalo should be attaching an asset just to get rid of the cap, right? No team ever is giving up an asset to "dump the cap" of a 28 goal scorer with 1 year left at $4.75. Especially a team with a full roster and 8.7 million in cap space. Many teams would pay 4.75 for a 28 goal PP specialist.

Not when he costs you goals when he is on the ice.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Groot

If he's a cap dump, Buffalo should be attaching an asset just to get rid of the cap, right? No team ever is giving up an asset to "dump the cap" of a 28 goal scorer with 1 year left at $4.75. Especially a team with a full roster and 8.7 million in cap space. Many teams would pay 4.75 for a 28 goal PP specialist.

Olofsson was scratched by Buffalo down the stretch. Even Buffalo beat writers think he is a tough contract to move with the flat cap and his one dimensional nature. It would be a major fail to have him in the trade in any capacity beyond salary coming back to make a trade work.

[boogerz]

Yea, hard pass on Olofsson...unless he comes with Peterka/Quinn + 1st

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Groot

If he's a cap dump, Buffalo should be attaching an asset just to get rid of the cap, right? No team ever is giving up an asset to "dump the cap" of a 28 goal scorer with 1 year left at $4.75. Especially a team with a full roster and 8.7 million in cap space. Many teams would pay 4.75 for a 28 goal PP specialist.

I think they would absolutely need to attach an asset to move him in the current market. He has a magnificent shot which can be lethal on the PP but outside of that (from my viewing at least) he is a really painful player to watch. Compare to someone like Mike Hoffman except a poor man's version. It's not a guy you want if you are trying to win.

I mean just think about it. BUFFALO doesn't want him. It's not like they are some top tier team with excess talent on their roster.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I think they would absolutely need to attach an asset to move him in the current market. He has a magnificent shot which can be lethal on the PP but outside of that (from my viewing at least) he is a really painful player to watch. Compare to someone like Mike Hoffman except a poor man's version. It's not a guy you want if you are trying to win.

I mean just think about it. BUFFALO doesn't want him. It's not like they are some top tier team with excess talent on their roster.

I’d swap our players, prospects and picks for theirs in a second. And I’d take their current NHL roster over ours too.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I’d swap our players, prospects and picks for theirs in a second. And I’d take their current NHL roster over ours too.

Mmmm. They have loads of young talent true, but be careful what you wish for. They have been a really bad team for really long. Calgary has never been that bad since I've followed them so roughly 20 years (since Kipper). It's ugly over there. People salivate over their talent but it's kind of like with the Panthers, until a bad team wins you just don't bet on them. Calgary has mostly been a middle of the road team since I remember and you don't just hop over that phase if you are a bad team like Buffalo, if you ever get over it. And outside of Dahlin? I'm not sure I see that overwhelming talent that would take them to the top.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Mmmm. They have loads of young talent true, but be careful what you wish for. They have been a really bad team for really long. Calgary has never been that bad since I've followed them so roughly 20 years (since Kipper). It's ugly over there. People salivate over their talent but it's kind of like with the Panthers, until a bad team wins you just don't bet on them. Calgary has mostly been a middle of the road team since I remember and you don't just hop over that phase if you are a bad team like Buffalo, if you ever get over it. And outside of Dahlin? I'm not sure I see that overwhelming talent that would take them to the top.

I’ll take the loads of young talent, thank you very much.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Yeah, that season was amazing to watch. Incredible creative hockey and a ton of talent. I do disagree with you though about last season being the lowest of lows. I still remember watching the Flames pre-Iginla's arrival. Last season doesn't even come close to those years for me. Missing the playoffs by January for me isn't even in the ballpark of missing the playoffs in the last 2 weeks of the season.

Fair point, I'm exercising recency bias.
Maybe lowest on the cap era is a better way to put it. Either way, I don't want it again!!

[Poe969]

Yes, oloffson would be a cap dump so they would have room for both Hanifin and to sign Kane. They're getting to the place where they'll have too many young players and not enough established players. Kane and Hanifin both fix that for them and they'd still have a lot of good young prospects to make another deal if they needed.

Hanifin to Buffalo
Lindholm to Columbus
Backlund to Boston
Tanev to Toronto

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Yes, oloffson would be a cap dump so they would have room for both Hanifin and to sign Kane. They're getting to the place where they'll have too many young players and not enough established players. Kane and Hanifin both fix that for them and they'd still have a lot of good young prospects to make another deal if they needed.

Hanifin to Buffalo
Lindholm to Columbus
Backlund to Boston
Tanev to Toronto

*Sigh* and exactly why is a team that has ambitions to make the playoffs this year doing that?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Mmmm. They have loads of young talent true, but be careful what you wish for. They have been a really bad team for really long. Calgary has never been that bad since I've followed them so roughly 20 years (since Kipper). It's ugly over there. People salivate over their talent but it's kind of like with the Panthers, until a bad team wins you just don't bet on them. Calgary has mostly been a middle of the road team since I remember and you don't just hop over that phase if you are a bad team like Buffalo, if you ever get over it. And outside of Dahlin? I'm not sure I see that overwhelming talent that would take them to the top.

Hahaha, anyone in the league would take Buffalo's roster over the Flames.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Hahaha, anyone in the league would take Buffalo's roster over the Flames.

Not even close.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Buffalo has a dreamy foundation in place.

Those are pieces every GM wants to build with.

Our most important pieces are depreciating and probably not currently good enough at their best to go anywhere with. That's the reality.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Mmmm. They have loads of young talent true, but be careful what you wish for. They have been a really bad team for really long. Calgary has never been that bad since I've followed them so roughly 20 years (since Kipper). It's ugly over there. People salivate over their talent but it's kind of like with the Panthers, until a bad team wins you just don't bet on them. Calgary has mostly been a middle of the road team since I remember and you don't just hop over that phase if you are a bad team like Buffalo, if you ever get over it. And outside of Dahlin? I'm not sure I see that overwhelming talent that would take them to the top.

You need to take a closer look.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Hahaha, anyone in the league would take Buffalo's roster over the Flames.

Buffalo is the Edmonton of the east.

No good.