getting a little tired of the crack/meth heads

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Engine09

In better shape? Yeah, probably.

Unless you're old or injured just ride a regular bike. As it is I can get a ticket for pedaling too fast on city pathways, these guys are going much faster and passing me on level ground. Without ringing a bell I may add.

Meh, mind your own business. Quit struggling up hills and slowing down a path as you huff and puff like a 90-year-old smoker. We're supposed to be in the mountains and on the trails having fun, not on a death march. Do you have Flintstones car, too, where you run along with your barefeet to get it going, or do you use a motor like a non-moron?

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I am well under 70, but I would love an e bike for a few things.

No, I’m not garbage.

I am garbage and I love my e-bike.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

-laughs at e-bikes in BRP-

I've had both. Ebikes are more fun. It's great that they're silent and you can go anywhere on them to very beautiful spots - so many places that dirtbikes aren't allowed. They also require a fraction of the maintenance of a traditional motorbike.

Plus when you see a "no e-bikes" sign you can just flip it the bird and carry on. Bikarens (thank you to Scroopy Noopers for that one) have literally no authority to tell you anything. Just watch them screech and shake their heads as you blissfully pedal on by.

[CliffFletcher]

As someone who has been cycling on Calgary pathways for over 40 years, the recent proliferation of ebikes and escooters has only increased the ######bag and annoyance factor. These things can easily do 30k, and the people driving them are even less considerate of others on the paths than cyclists are. On already crowded pathways, they’ve only made matters worse.

I’m not sure why we’re even allowing motorized vehicles on the pathway system. The distinction between an e-scooter or e-bike and a moped has become pretty much arbitrary. If we’re going to draw a line on what vehicles we do allow, it seems non-motorized is a pretty clear one. It’s like the reservoir. Want to know what kind of water vessel you can take on it? If it has a motor, you can’t. Crystal clear.

[btimbit]

Yeah I can definitely see that being a big municipal debate over the next few years, all over the world.

I mean, it already is, but think we're just scratching the surface there

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

As someone who has been cycling on Calgary pathways for over 40 years, the recent proliferation of ebikes and escooters has only increased the ######bag and annoyance factor. These things can easily do 30k, and the people driving them are even less considerate of others on the paths than cyclists are. On already crowded pathways, they’ve only made matters worse.

I’m not sure why we’re even allowing motorized vehicles on the pathway system. The distinction between an e-scooter or e-bike and a moped has become pretty much arbitrary. If we’re going to draw a line on what vehicles we do allow, it seems non-motorized is a pretty clear one. It’s like the reservoir. Want to know what kind of water vessel you can take on it? If it has a motor, you can’t. Crystal clear.

I understand the frustration, but in the spirit of moving away from car traffic and increasing peoples physical and mental health I think it is worth encouraging folks to use them.

I reckon that some policing and clear explanation of laws would be a better compromise than an outright ban.

[Sliver]

There's this one old bitch who rides the paths in Canmore all time on an analogue bike and smugly yells "EBIKE!" whenever we pass her. At first I thought she was being cutesy or something so just kind of smiled and was like, "haha, yep," but she chatted up my wife one day and we realized she hates ebikers and is actively trying to put us down as lesser than her. Apparently she rides every day even though she's 70 and thinks all of us e-bikers are lazy. Um, no bitch, you're just rich, retired early and won the life lottery in that you still have your health and the wealth to live in Canmore along with the free time to train on your bike daily. We still work, raise kids and don't have the time to focus every spare second on fitness, but still like to access a broad swath of the outdoors.

I'm primed to scream "#### YOU BITCH" next time she does this to me, but of course I haven't seen her in like three weeks. I am ready though.

[TheIronMaiden]

Since we are bitching, IDAF what you're riding a motor bike, e bike, bicycle. The 766 is not a quite back road get away. It is a major artery into the city and it is packed with commuters, there are no margins, you are putting you life in danger.

[Bill Bumface]

This is easily solved.

Sidewalks for slow walkers -> fast walker sidewalk -> bike lanes -> medium fast ebike lanes -> scooter lanes -> e-scooter lanes -> fast ebike lanes -> roads

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Um, no bitch, you're just rich, retired early and won the life lottery in that you still have your health and the wealth to live in Canmore along with the free time to train on your bike daily. We still work, raise kids and don't have the time to focus every spare second on fitness, but still like to access a broad swath of the outdoors.

Lots of people with kids and full-time jobs can ride a bicycle without motor assistance. Anyone under 60 who doesn’t suffer from some kind of legitimate disability should be able to pedal a bike 15 km without keeling over.

To be quite honest, it sound like you’re overweight and lazy. Which isn’t a crime. But you don’t need to justify that laziness by pretending it’s impossible for normal people to cycle any distance unless they’re fitness freaks.

[PepsiFree]

Walkers hate cyclists, e-bikers, scooters, and drivers

Cyclists hate walkers, e-bikers, scooters, and drivers

E-bikers and scooters hate no one

Drivers hate walkers, cyclists, e-bikers, and scooters

Seems like the only people who aren’t total bitches about everyone else are e-bikers and scooters. Have the rest of you tried to find joy and happiness in your lives? I feel like cyclists disproportionately complain about everyone else they interact with while they’re on a bike. Maybe they just hate themselves.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I feel like cyclists disproportionately complain about everyone else they interact with while they’re on a bike. Maybe they just hate themselves.

If you ever want to see true, pure hatred, close or block a bike lane for something.

No different than closing a road lane, but at least most people in cars feel locked away from others so just bitch to themselves. Cyclists are right there and want to make sure you know how they feel

[Wormius]

I don’t have a strong opinion on e-bikers, but e-scooter riders are just oblivious and self-concerned. Of everything on the roads, pathways, sidewalks, those are the scourge.

[topfiverecords]

Some people need a trip to Europe if they are bothered by e-bikes on the pathways. These things are allowed in the bike lanes.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I've had both. Ebikes are more fun. It's great that they're silent and you can go anywhere on them to very beautiful spots - so many places that dirtbikes aren't allowed. They also require a fraction of the maintenance of a traditional motorbike.

Plus when you see a "no e-bikes" sign you can just flip it the bird and carry on. Bikarens (thank you to Scroopy Noopers for that one) have literally no authority to tell you anything. Just watch them screech and shake their heads as you blissfully pedal on by.

Eh. The same people crying about ebikes are the same ones who have pushed the dirty bikes out of the hills.
I was part of the Quad Squad in Southern Alberta. We built trails, warming shacks, bridges, cleaned #### up... then the NDP decided they were gonna shut down the trails to OHV, but promised to work with us to keep us happy, and able to use our machines snow or shine to keep riding. Never did. Got pushed out of Beaver Mines/Castle area. Limited to the trail system that basically only runs in the ditch beside the road. But hey, the warming shacks, bridges and everything else is there for the NIMBYs that bitched it up for everyone who built it.

[2Stonedbirds]

The funny thing about people complaining about others on the trail system and how clogged up it is now, I remember thinking the same thing 20 years ago.
Seemingly overnight it changed, asshats would park their Subaru in the ditch off the road in random access, set up pylons and scream at people who had the audacity to kick the dust up on the road trying to get by.
Used to be able to go any long weekend, get there Friday and have your pick of any random access spot. Now it's plugged up solid every weekend with Karen's who leave garbage everywhere, coming up to ask for water and #### cuz they have no clue what they are doing.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Engine09

In better shape? Yeah, probably.

Unless you're old or injured just ride a regular bike. As it is I can get a ticket for pedaling too fast on city pathways, these guys are going much faster and passing me on level ground. Without ringing a bell I may add.

Does the fact that you may or may not be in better shape make you a better person then them though to the point where you can view them as 'garbage people'?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

The funny thing about people complaining about others on the trail system and how clogged up it is now, I remember thinking the same thing 20 years ago.
Seemingly overnight it changed, asshats would park their Subaru in the ditch off the road in random access, set up pylons and scream at people who had the audacity to kick the dust up on the road trying to get by.
Used to be able to go any long weekend, get there Friday and have your pick of any random access spot. Now it's plugged up solid every weekend with Karen's who leave garbage everywhere, coming up to ask for water and #### cuz they have no clue what they are doing.

Times change, Alberta is a busy place. Anything worth seeing within a two hour radius of the city is going to be packed.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by btimbit

If you ever want to see true, pure hatred, close or block a bike lane for something.

No different than closing a road lane, but at least most people in cars feel locked away from others so just bitch to themselves. Cyclists are right there and want to make sure you know how they feel

Close an entire road to cars mid-block with no detour, and reactions aren't much different.

[Boblobla]

Sorry to interrupt the bike lane discussion. I got a wonderful view this morning of a crackhead leaning against the pedestrian overpass by Chinook and taking a ####. That was a great way to enjoy my commute to work. 10/10.