2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Save us Sec/Dis!

Hive of activity on Monday and now Steinberg says trade interest is low/weak.

Did all the talk from Monday die down or just die?

Is what you see what you get for training camp?

I would love to save you guys with something but it is simply dead right now.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

But if Debrusk will sign an extension with us sooner rather than later, I’d take the player who will commit to be here vs the player who wants to see how things play out.

First, we have no idea whether DeBrusk will commit to here, and second, I would rather win the trade than lose it.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

First, we have no idea whether DeBrusk will commit to here, and second, I would rather win the trade than lose it.

Of course only do the deal with an extension. I’m more of a bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush person. No guarantee that we get a better player than Debrusk in any backlund deal. Some people more comfortable rolling dice on draft picks, but my memory does back to 2013 and how we busted on Klimchuk and Poirier. Set the franchise back considerably.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Not sure about cap implications here and I don’t like Duehr sitting but man I’m still dreaming about a first line like that.

That would put us around $3.5M over the cap. I could see something like this:
To TOR: Hanifin, Sharagovich, Zary
To CGY: Nylander, Liljegren

[Toonage]

They just traded for and signed Sharangovich. Guarantee he isn't being moved prior to the start of the season.

And no not even for Nylander who isn't being traded for a pending UFA, an RFA and a rookie.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would love to save you guys with something but it is simply dead right now.

*NON HOCKEY RELATED RESPONSE*

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Toonage

They just traded for and signed Sharangovich. Guarantee he isn't being moved prior to the start of the season.

And no not even for Nylander who isn't being traded for a pending UFA, an RFA and a rookie.

First of all Nylander is also a pending UFA. I don't see how just acquiring Sharangovich and signing him before arbitration affect the situation. If a GM thinks he can make his team better he usually does.

As for Nylander's value, what is he getting traded for then? Because I packaged a #2D, a #2/3RW, and a former 1st round pick that's developing very nicely in the AHL.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

That would put us around $3.5M over the cap. I could see something like this:
To TOR: Hanifin, Sharagovich, Zary
To CGY: Nylander, Liljegren

I think they'd just find a taker for Backlund or Tanev rather than dumping Zary and Sharagovich

[Flames1217]

I'd look into Nylander if :

A) he would be willing to sign a long term deal at around 8.5 to 9 million
B) if Toronto was willing to accept Mangiapane, Tanev (retained at 50%) and a second for him.

If we acquired Nylander we couldn't keep Mangiapane at his current cap hit.

After that you run with the following :

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Nylander
Ruzicka-Kadri-Shaggy
Pelletier-Backlund-Dube
Coleman-Jones -Duehr

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I'd look into Nylander if :

A) he would be willing to sign a long term deal at around 8.5 to 9 million
B) if Toronto was willing to accept Mangiapane, Tanev (retained at 50%) and a second for him.

If we acquired Nylander we couldn't keep Mangiapane at his current cap hit.

A) Possible but not likely
B) Impossible Imo

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think they'd just find a taker for Backlund or Tanev rather than dumping Zary and Sharagovich

I don't see Toronto giving Nylander away for Hanifin(25% retained) + a pick. That's why I made it a more enticing package. Also, lost in all this Liljegren is a very good up and coming D.

Okay how many teams can take on Backlund/Tanev without sending salary back, that are also actually looking for rentals?

Nashville and Detroit maybe? that's about it.

[FlamesAddiction]

It’s reported that Tatar has a PTO offer from the Leafs but is still hoping to get signed somewhere. Hard to see how they can fit him in though.

[Bongsong]

Originally Posted by Sec214

*NON HOCKEY RELATED RESPONSE*

More hockey related please

[Braden]

QUOTE=Sandman;8799455]Grain of salt time again, but Rob Ellis of NHL Trade Rumor (???) says the Bruins have been linked to Mikael Backlund, and proposes that the trade would be Backlund (25% retained), and a 2024 3rd for Jake Debrusk. [/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Backlund 25% retained for Debrusk and a 3rd would be pretty solid asset retention IMO.

The 3rd switched teams

[Hockey_Ninja]

Catching up on this thread has definitely been….interesting to say the least

[Sandman]

More grains of salt: Michael DeRosa of nhltraderumors names the Flames as 1 of 2 landing spots for Scott Laughton, the other being Minnesota. I'm a big fan of Scotty's, and he would look great in a flaming C!

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Sandman

More grains of salt: Michael DeRosa of nhltraderumors names the Flames as 1 of 2 landing spots for Scott Laughton, the other being Minnesota. I'm a big fan of Scotty's, and he would look great in a flaming C!

We already have a Laughton in Dube, and he's 4 years younger. This team needs a high skilled top 6 center not a 3rd liner.

[Burn13]

Can't see Backlund getting traded after the Huska interview. He loves Backs and he will be the captain. Too much history together.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

We already have a Laughton in Dube, and he's 4 years younger. This team needs a high skilled top 6 center not a 3rd liner.

I don't think there's too many similarities between Laughton and Dube, other than their shared ability to play all 3 forward positions- Laughton is bigger, much more hard-nosed and physical, and is known for his defensive prowess. Laughton is much closer to Backlund than Dube.

Yes, we could use another top-6 player, but does that mean we have to stop improving the bottom-6? Laughton has the skill and scoring to fill in as a second-line C, as well- or as a winger. We could use more hard-nosed, physical players.

[FlamesAddiction]

What would a realistic acquisition cost be for Laughton?