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Old 08-11-2023, 05:52 PM   #81
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Wow, I legit thought this was already a rule in major junior. I admittedly don't watch much junior anymore but every fight I can remember resulted in both participants being ejected.
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:13 PM   #82
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After he fought there were 10 seconds left in the game.

The next game they won 4-0 and Iginla scored the ENG. They won on a SHG by Yelle, a PPG by Unit 2, and an even strength goal by Donovan. But the reason they won the series is Kipper v Cloutier/Auld/Hedberg. Outside of game 1 Kipper was brilliant.

Iginla was plenty good without fighting.
Plenty good without fighting, and an all-time great with it.

Go ask anyone who ever played with him - the willingness and ability to throw hands with the best of them made Iggy different.

Hell, go ask the Ducks players if Beauchimen dropping Iggy in 2006 made any impact.

It’s not just about box scores.
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:14 PM   #83
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Plenty good without fighting, and an all-time great with it.

Go ask anyone who ever played with him - the willingness and ability to throw hands with the best of them made Iggy different.

Hell, go ask the Ducks players if Beauchimen dropping Iggy in 2006 made any impact.

It’s not just about box scores.
I asked, he said no, the Ducks were just better.
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:48 PM   #84
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Plenty good without fighting, and an all-time great with it.

Go ask anyone who ever played with him - the willingness and ability to throw hands with the best of them made Iggy different.

Hell, go ask the Ducks players if Beauchimen dropping Iggy in 2006 made any impact.

It’s not just about box scores.
2006 does not equal 2023, things have already changed substantially and the same conditions where that was an impact is pretty unlikely today isn’t it? It’s a genuine curiosity of mine, even if one accepts that was a series changer has that happened recently?
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Old 08-18-2023, 02:06 AM   #85
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I don't know if this will have an effect on player development at all, not having adjusted to fighting (essentially) grown men before going pro. I am all for safety though, would have preferred all three leagues to ban fighting at the same time though.
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Old 08-18-2023, 11:27 AM   #86
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Fighting in the NHL has been in steady decline for some time now. Though I think it will always be a part of the game. There is no data for the last three years but in 2018-19 there were fights in only 16.74% of games, down from 41.38% in 2008-09
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if you break down last season team by team, you'll see that fighting is already a small part of the game.

Tampa leads the league with 37 fights in the regular season.
Carolina had the least with 5.
Calgary predictably right in the middle ranked 17th with 19 fights.
Vegas had 14, though they had 4 in the post season.
Florida had 21, but only 1 in the playoffs



If you look at who the league leaders in fights were, it is a real list of nobodies.

Nicolas Deslauriers had 14 fights.
the skilled player with most fights was Brady Tkachuk who had 8. So 1 every ten games.
Dennis Gilbert lead the Flames with 5

https://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/teams/1/reg2023
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I don't know if this will have an effect on player development at all, not having adjusted to fighting (essentially) grown men before going pro. I am all for safety though, would have preferred all three leagues to ban fighting at the same time though.
Players come from Europe and the NCAA and seem to have no problem at all adjusting, including some guys that become enforcers. The vast majority of NHLers that come through the CHL likely have no to very limited fighting ability.

I don't think it will affect development of players in anyway especially with how it has been shown above that fighting is a pretty small part of the game now at the NHL level.
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Fighting in the NHL has been in steady decline for some time now. Though I think it will always be a part of the game. There is no data for the last three years but in 2018-19 there were fights in only 16.74% of games, down from 41.38% in 2008-09
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Old 08-19-2023, 08:57 AM   #90
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I think this video show why fighting in junior should be…I’ll just say rethought. The guys on the ice seem comparable in size. The guy who comes from the tunnel with murder on his mind looks like a giant compared to them.
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Old 08-20-2023, 07:21 PM   #91
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I think this video show why fighting in junior should be…I’ll just say rethought. The guys on the ice seem comparable in size. The guy who comes from the tunnel with murder on his mind looks like a giant compared to them.
That's Ryan Flinn. Fun fact. He was a 20 year old, Halifax had 4 but could only have 3 on the roster. So he was traded from Halifax to Cape Breton. He held a huge grudge on being the odd man out in Halifax.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/....php?pid=29538
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That's Ryan Flinn. Fun fact. He was a 20 year old, Halifax had 4 but could only have 3 on the roster. So he was traded from Halifax to Cape Breton. He held a huge grudge on being the odd man out in Halifax.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/....php?pid=29538
67 games, 365 PIMs! He probably got a pile of them from that game alone. 31 games with LAK and 81 PIMs. A 10 yr AHL career for a meathead like that is pretty good.
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