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Old 08-17-2023, 04:18 PM   #7921
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Supporting Israel is not proof that one isn't anti-semitic. Usually, support of Israel is a political position more than anything else, largely held by the political right whereas the left more often associates with the struggle of the Palestinians. Marjorie Taylor-Greene supports Israel but also seems to believe that powerful Jews control the world with space lasers. Besides, Israelis aren't usually the target of anti-semitic behavior. That's generally reserved for Jews outside of Israel, which is more or less why Israel was formed in the first (or is it second?) place. And the Israeli population includes Jews, Christians, Arabs and others.

Pierre has discussed conspiracy theories like WEF that ARE widely considered dog-whistles to anti-semites. The fact that he answered the question with a deflection should tell you everything you need to know. What's sadder is that otherwise intelligent people seem to think that he got the better of the reporter in that exchange when they should be asking why he didn't address his (let's generously call it) borderline anti-semitic language.
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Old 08-17-2023, 04:32 PM   #7922
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Supporting Israel is not proof that one isn't anti-semitic. Usually, support of Israel is a political position more than anything else, largely held by the political right whereas the left more often associates with the struggle of the Palestinians.
I don't think it is quite that simple in terms of political spectrum support for Israel as many left leaning governments are in strong support and have favourable ties with Israel which includes Canada, under Trudeau and previous governments, and the US, under Biden/Trump/Obama and before that.
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Old 08-17-2023, 04:39 PM   #7923
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We know he doesn’t hate WEF, he under the Harper government was an active participant.

So at a minimum he is lying about what conservative policies would be to engage in conspiracy talk to engage his base.

Now you can try to make the argument that he is unaware that the WEF conspiracy is just the latest version of the Jewish bankers rule the world and aren’t loyal to any country conspiracy. If that’s the case then you can given him a pass on the anti-Semitic portion of the dog whistle and it’s just political lying to appeal to his conspiracy minded base.

Or we can assume PP is a reasonably competent person and knows the history of anti-semantic tropes of secret groups controlling the world.

Either way if he is unknowingly using anti-Semitic dog whistles or if it’s intentional he should be called out on it.

The story being missed here though is that he is just outright misleading the public that the conservatives are anti-WEF.
He’s actively spoken against the WEF very recently. Holding something against him from 10 years ago is a bit ridiculous. Trump went there and turned up his nose.

You are allowed to get information and change your mind in a topic.
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Old 08-17-2023, 04:59 PM   #7924
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Old 08-17-2023, 05:08 PM   #7925
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He’s actively spoken against the WEF very recently. Holding something against him from 10 years ago is a bit ridiculous. Trump went there and turned up his nose.

You are allowed to get information and change your mind in a topic.
Assuming you want to faithfully engage which part of the conservative platform as currently structured is against WEFs actual agenda and goals?
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Old 08-17-2023, 05:32 PM   #7926
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Assuming you want to faithfully engage which part of the conservative platform as currently structured is against WEFs actual agenda and goals?
“There will be no mandatory digital ID in this country, and I will ban all of my ministers and top government officials from any involvement in the World Economic Forum," Poilievre said
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6935294
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Old 08-17-2023, 05:55 PM   #7927
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He’s actively spoken against the WEF very recently. Holding something against him from 10 years ago is a bit ridiculous. Trump went there and turned up his nose.

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"It's far past time we rejected the globalist Davos elites and bring home the common sense of the common people," said a Saturday fundraising email.

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Feels like this thread was the basis for this Beaverton article

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2023/08...t-antisemitic/
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I have learned that Toronto housing prices and people who can’t figure out a grocery budget are Trudeau’s fault.
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Old 08-17-2023, 06:23 PM   #7932
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Hilarious to see Mr FYGM posting a bleeding heart video.
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Hilarious to see Mr FYGM posting a bleeding heart video.
Spent the last several years trying to insult people by saying they were on welfare/received handouts/received CERB.

Posts video with someone crying about being unable to figure out how to buy a house while making $150k.

Just beautiful. Top L taker on the board.
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Old 08-17-2023, 06:34 PM   #7934
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“There will be no mandatory digital ID in this country, and I will ban all of my ministers and top government officials from any involvement in the World Economic Forum," Poilievre said
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6935294
Now show where those are actual police’s of the WEF.

I assume you are referring to this document when you are talking about digital IDs

https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Re...al_ID_2023.pdf

Can you point out where it suggests mandatory digital IDs. The entire point of the WEF digital IDs concept is to give access to ID to people who don’t have access to ID because society as it presently exists charges large sums of money for ID and requires ID to access any services.

We currently live in a world where ID is mandatory.

Banning people from attending WEF does not make one against WEF policies or economic systems. (Hating WEF policies is for socialists and communists)

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Holding something against him from 10 years ago is a bit ridiculous..
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Yoho’s 10 yr rule only gets to apply to Conservative Party or People’s Party of Canada members.
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i have learned that toronto housing prices and people who can’t figure out a grocery budget are trudeau’s fault.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1692338817481810153
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You must have missed the post where I asked you about why Quebec is paying less carbon tax than the rest of Canada. Since you wanted to chime in there.
Quebecers pay less because they don’t get the carbon tax rebate, since they have a different set up to deal with carbon pricing. Quebec’s system isn’t set up to be revenue neutral or even close to it.

Which brings us back to the only question you should be asking: if Quebec is getting such a good deal, why hasn’t Alberta copied them?
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Old 08-17-2023, 09:03 PM   #7940
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Quebecers pay less because they don’t get the carbon tax rebate, since they have a different set up to deal with carbon pricing. Quebec’s system isn’t set up to be revenue neutral or even close to it.
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While you are partly correct, Quebecs carbon tax way cheaper.

Then there is the question of carbon pricing in Quebec. The province does not levy a formal carbon tax at the pumps. Instead, it is a part of an emissions-credit trading system with California and Washington state.

In theory, the cost of credits should be in line with the price that Ottawa has placed on a tonne of carbon. In reality, the cost of carbon in Quebec is far lower than under the federal backstop. In the most recent auction, in May, the settlement price for a tonne of carbon credits was just $40.81 – not even two-thirds of the $65 a tonne price under Ottawa’s system

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Which brings us back to the only question you should be asking: if Quebec is getting such a good deal, why hasn’t Alberta copied them?

Funny, this is word for word what is written in the Sun article. Lol. I guess maybe you do agree with the Sun on some things!!
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