Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I don't need a news report to tell me something I already know. We saw it plain as day many times, one example being during the trucker occupation in Ottawa. This current brand of Conservative in Canada has no problem cozying up to the exact people that they should be distancing themselves from, and that turns traditional Conservatives like myself away.

I can't stand the current brand of Liberals either. I wish we had one party led by adults

Just more generalized fluff comments with no specific examples.

It’s coming to an end people can see thru it my man.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Firebot

I don't see the word dog-whistling, a term coined by Trudeau specifically a year ago on a congratulatory statement on Poilievre's inauguration of all things.

And yes Poilievre is well aware of that article considering he tweeted a reply on it.

If a reporter is using words that only Trudeau notably has been found to have used, and unable to provide an answer when called on it, and resorted to experts but couldn't name what experts said it, that's a partisan narrative.

Does Poilievre pander to the more right elements of the party? Yes as we have seen.

Is he dog-whistling? That's a fabricated narrative coined by a partisan source and a loaded question that got called out.

You think Trudeau coined the term dog-whistling? What???

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Do I have to hold your hand for how Google works? You get a list of results and then you can click on these links to see what they have to say. It's pretty neat. It also doesn't mean the first result is one you trust.

Here's one from Dale Smith:



https://xtramagazine.com/power/polit...opulism-236084

It's also mentioned by Adam Zivo of the National Post.



https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ada...e-is-offensive


It's actually baffling you and Pierre haven't come across these stories, or similar ones about courting the far right. Am I on crazy pills here? Seems like it comes up all the time.

You are literally searching on google to find any mention of "dog-whistle" simply to try and find some gotcha. The NP one hasn't accused Poilievre of dog-whistling.

All this effort while omitting the very first result, you know the one by our PM outright calling Poilievre a dog-whistler the same day he got inaugurated.

And in the end, the reporter who coined it, couldn't state or answer who did. Hence the retort.

You are trying way too hard.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Just more generalized fluff comments with no specific examples.

It’s coming to an end people can see thru it my man.

How many examples do you need? There's been dozens in this thread over the months. "Generalized fluff"? Come on now, I don't really need to start posting pictures of PP waving at the trucker convoy, giving speeches to groups that deny the residential schools murders, or posing with 'straight pride' people, or rooting on the classic "Old stock Canadians" thing.

You just ignore anything that challenges your little Americanized view of conservatism anyway, and just like all the times I've disproved your little theories in the Alberta politics thread, you'll just ignore them and move onto the next conspiracy theory tweet about a completely different topic

The only thing that needs to come to an end is your little cheerleading troll act

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Firebot

You are literally searching on google to find any mention of "dog-whistle" simply to try and find some gotcha. The NP one hasn't accused Poilievre of dog-whistling.

All this effort while omitting the very first result, you know the one by our PM outright calling Poilievre a dog-whistler the same day he got inaugurated.

And in the end, the reporter who coined it, couldn't state or answer who did. Hence the retort.

You are trying way too hard.

I'm trying too hard? You have to to be kidding me. "Trudeau called out Pierre becuase it's exactly what he does. Are you that daft? No, I'm not going to find any of the hundred examples, if you don't believe they exist that's your blind spot, not mine.

To say the NP reporter didn't directly say "Pierre Pollivere is dog-whistling" is your own failure to understand how the written word works. I don't know how you can read this,....again:

and while accusations of “dog whistling” may be grossly abused by progressives these days, it is apt in this case.

and not get that the writer is saying it applies in this specific situation with this specific politician.

And then see Opendoor's post, too. It's like you are trying to convince me the sky is concrete. Pull it together, man.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by btimbit

How many examples do you need? There's been dozens in this thread over the months. "Generalized fluff"? Come on now, I don't really need to start posting pictures of PP waving at the trucker convoy, giving speeches to groups that deny the residential schools murders, or posing with 'straight pride' people, or rooting on the classic "Old stock Canadians" thing.

You just ignore anything that challenges your little Americanized view of conservatism anyway, and just like all the times I've disproved your little theories in the Alberta politics thread, you'll just ignore them and move onto the next conspiracy theory tweet about a completely different topic

The only thing that needs to come to an end is your little cheerleading troll act

Give examples of what he actually said , not contrived and misconstrued legacy liberal media photo bombs.

[btimbit]

Is dog whistle about to become the next overused buzzword?

Great, this election is going to be the racist dog whistle vs the woke virtue signaler. Can't wait to read all about it for the next two years until an election actually happens.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Is dog whistle about to become the next overused buzzword?

Great, this election is going to be the racist dog whistle vs the woke virtue signaler. Can't wait to read all about it for the next two years until an election actually happens.

Trudeau vs Trudeau??

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

No mention in that article about Nova Scotia, which was the point being discussed.

Since you need a Globe article that mentions Nova Scotia in it, here you go.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...he-carbon-tax/

Still, there’s no doubt that the cost of carbon in Quebec is lower than under the federal system. There is no surer way to undermine support for carbon pricing than to apply it selectively; that’s both unfair and unwise. Mr. Guilbeault seems to have acknowledged this fact by ending Atlantic Canada’s exemptions. His next stop should be Quebec.

[PepsiFree]

Speaking of the dumb terms, what is with people and referring to Googling something as “Google Fu”? Y’all make yourselves look dumb when you make googling something seem like some sort of hard-to-win skill.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Since you need a Globe article that mentions Nova Scotia in it, here you go.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...he-carbon-tax/

That’s an opinion piece, not an article.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Is dog whistle about to become the next overused buzzword?

Great, this election is going to be the racist dog whistle vs the woke virtue signaler. Can't wait to read all about it for the next two years until an election actually happens.

I mean, it's not really overused at this point. It's just that some people (apparently) think that it was something that Trudeau coined, rather than a term that's been used in the political lexicon for decades all around the world.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

All this garbage is a deflection from the floundering liberals and their failed policy nothing more.

Try finding one fair and balanced Duane Bratt story or take.

He made a fool out of himself crying on tv when Provincial NDP lost again in Alberta.

This is hilarious coming from the guy who regularly posts articles from the Western Standard.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Ontario was going to join the Quebec program. Then we elected a Conservative government who cancelled it. And then we got dragged into the federal carbon tax.

Is there any reason why anyone else can't just join the same Quebec program if its so much better?

It is open to all, it is called the Western Climate Initiative.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s an opinion piece, not an article.

Correct.

Do you have any comment on why Quebec is paying less carbon tax than the rest of Canada?

[timun]

Originally Posted by Firebot

I don't see the word dog-whistling, a term coined by Trudeau specifically a year ago

Lolololololololol


"Justin Trudeau invented the term 'dog-whistle'" is the most hilarious thing I've read on this forum in a long time.

I want credit where credit is due: I used the term in posts 16-17 months ago!

Originally Posted by timun

I think the UCP's underlying problem is that at its foundation the party has no purpose but to "keep the NDP out".

The "grass roots" is dominated by the fringe, who have all manner of kooky policy wants. For instance all this crap about re-doing the school curricula is purely a dog-whistle for the whackos who've made "gub'mint filling their kids' minds with ideas about _______" a boogeyman. It's bible-thumping hillbilly claptrap, but it has a lot of play with what has historically been a very, very loyal voter base.

Originally Posted by timun

Harper did a commendable job keeping a lid on the so-con fringes of the party—and it's the only reason they stayed in power as long as they did—but he absolutely "veered off into social issues crazy talk".

This is something I already commented on a couple of weeks ago so I won't rehash the examples I cited then and I'll just link it. For another example let's not forget that right before they got bounced in the 2015 election the Harper government was pushing through its Zero Tolerances for Barbaric Cultural Practices Act that would have created a snitch line in case you suspected your brown-skinned neighbours of arranging child marriages or whathaveyou. That was one big ol' so-con dog whistle...

[Fuzz]

A quick search shows it was used here in 2010 by Stimpy. It is by no means a newly coined term, even for CP.


https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...2&postcount=57

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Give examples of what he actually said , not contrived and misconstrued legacy liberal media photo bombs.

Are you saying people shouldn’t let the liberal media tell them how to think and feel?

[PepsiFree]

I take back what I said about the term “google fu,” because if it didn’t exist, we wouldn’t have someone who commented on someone’s else’s “week google fu” being so poor at using Google that they genuinely thought Trudeau coined the phrase “dog whistling” hahaha.

I love this place.

[Major Major]

Yoho demands evidence! Lol.

Quick! Scour the headlines! 😂