[Trade] Petry to Detroit

[dissentowner]

From what I have heard I would put Buffalo as the team heavily favoured to trade for Hanifin. They need to come to the table with better offers than what they have so far and that probably happens as we get closer to training camp. That timeline could change tmrw for all I know though, that is pure speculation on my part. I have no intel on what the Sabres have offered, just that it has not been what Conroy expects to get in return.

[CliffFletcher]

I get the strategy of insulating good young players with reliable veterans instead of letting them sink of swim. The problem is that the Wings rebuild core doesn’t look that strong.

Seider
Raymond
Debrincat
Rasmussen
Edvinsson
Kasper
Danielson

That’s a deep and good group of prospects and young players. But it’s not shaping up to be elite. DET really got boned by the draft lotteries during their tank years.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

An additional separate move to lock up a top pair guy long term…

The just brought in Petry, Ghostisbehere, and Holl this offseason. They signed Chiarot to a hefty deal last season. They love Walman, he has great chemistry with Seider, and they just extended him. Hard to imagine them moving any of those guys.

Yzerman built this d-corp from the ground up over the last 12 months. Any move to make room for Hanifin will involve a major do-over on a recent move. I just don’t see it.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The just brought in Petry, Ghostisbehere, and Holl this offseason. And signed Chiarot to a hefty deal last season. Hard to imagine them moving any of those guys.

I don’t disagree. I honestly don’t believe they were even serious in talks for Hanifin based on their roster. They aren’t really in a position to move futures.

Really the only thing I contest is that this valuation is in anyway similar to the return Hanifin would get.

[Nelson]

Well, I agree that Hanifin and Petry are different assets. But I still think this shows that the market is depressed, which is why the Flames have been getting low offers, and this takes a suitor out of the market. So, I maintain this is bad.

Also, I agree that of course the market could and probably will be different at the deadline!

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

An additional separate move to lock up a top pair guy long term…

Then you wouldn’t have traded for Petry.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Well, I agree that Hanifin and Petry are different assets. But I still think this shows that the market is depressed, which is why the Flames have been getting low offers, and this takes a suitor out of the market. So, I maintain this is bad.

Also, I agree that of course the market could and probably will be different at the deadline!

I don't think it's bad at all. It takes DET out of the market, but it also shows that, if Petry was their back-up plan, there is precious little available out there.

Hanifin is a very attractive asset. DET just settled on a guy that is no more than a replacement player at this point.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

From what I have heard I would put Buffalo as the team heavily favoured to trade for Hanifin. They need to come to the table with better offers than what they have so far and that probably happens as we get closer to training camp. That timeline could change tmrw for all I know though, that is pure speculation on my part. I have no intel on what the Sabres have offered, just that it has not been what Conroy expects to get in return.

That's so interesting to me. It.seems like they have such a high end future defense. Maybe tho they want a guy with 600 games and a lot of tred left on the tires. I sure hope they make a trade with Buffalo as they have a lot of pieces worth trading for.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

That's so interesting to me. It.seems like they have such a high end future defense. Maybe tho they want a guy with 600 games and a lot of tred left on the tires. I sure hope they make a trade with Buffalo as they have a lot of pieces worth trading for.

They do but there is a lot of pressure in Buffalo to get back to the playoffs this year. That fanbase has lost its patience.

[PuckSlap]

Now change the name of the arena to Dish.

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[Pickle Juice]

I would love to know who we would be targeting from Buffalo. With all the talk we are not rebuilding are we looking at a 1 for 1 trade?

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Everything Yzerman has done this offseason has been baffling to me.

Strange that his wizardry is diminished after taking over management of a team without a 20 year old #1 center, a 19 year old #1 Dman, and a Hall of Fame Captain.

He did well in Tampa and could afford to be patient because of the stable high end assets acquired before he took over. He picked his spot & delegated well, but it’s beginning to appear as though he wasn’t the special ingredient in Tampa’s success.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Hanifin is obviously a better player than Petry. But this move likely takes DET out of the running for the former. Here’s their depth chart:

Walman (3.4) - Seider (0.86)
Chiarot (4.75) - Petry (2.43)
Gostisbehere (4.1) - Holl (3.4)
Maata (3.0)

Where would Hanifin fit?

he's better than at least 5 of those guys.

but i get your point.

[Enoch Root]

What has Yzerman done in Detroit to warrant the elite rating that fans give him?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Strange that his wizardry is diminished after taking over management of a team without a 20 year old #1 center, a 19 year old #1 Dman, and a Hall of Fame Captain.

He did well in Tampa and could afford to be patient because of the stable high end assets acquired before he took over. He picked his spot & delegated well, but it’s beginning to appear as though he wasn’t the special ingredient in Tampa’s success.

The demands for ongoing success in Detroit are different than TB as well I bet. It's practically a Canadian city.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

What has Yzerman done in Detroit to warrant the elite rating that fans give him?

Nothing. He's terrible.

But apparently its all part of the "Yzerplan".

And DONOT tell them otherwise.

https://thehockeywriters.com/red-win...progress-2023/

[Hackey]

This is the type of move I figured would be more enticing to a team like Detroit. Keep your prospects and keep cap flexibility moving forward. Buffalo would be smart to do something similar.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yzerman's problem is one common to many GMs.
Lack of patience.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hackey

This is the type of move I figured would be more enticing to a team like Detroit. Keep your prospects and keep cap flexibility moving forward. Buffalo would be smart to do something similar.

Yes, because having cap space is far more important than having good players

[Hackey]

I remember at the draft this year Yzerman said something like were still in the rebuilding and collecting assets stage. I took that as he wasn't in any huge rush to try and speed up his rebuild.