2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It depends on if you are a stickler for RS RW. Sharangovich is a LS who strives on playing RW with his elite wrist shot. Huby prefers his RW to be a LS. Mangiapane is a LS that also seems comfortable on RW. Coronato could very well grab a spot on the roster at RW. It would be fantastic to get an upgrade on RW like a Nylander but we will still be ok with the guys we have. I definitely wouldn't say it's a giant hole.

I want Dube to play Centre next season, he seems to have another gear when playing there and long term it would be awesome if he turned into a solid second line centre.

I fully expect Shaggy to play RW and think it will go well. I am really hopeful that they have something with him.

Mangiapane had a horrible season last year so I really don't want to judge too much but he struggled and appears to play better on his natural side. Coleman is solid but is more of a checking/defensive specialist who eats hard minutes. Duehr shares much of this and his peak should resemble Coleman's.

If you look at things this way then RW is our weakest position. LW is stacked, centre is very solid, defence is as strong as ever and goaltending could go either way(Markstrom).

We need to deal from a position of strength to fill in the weaknesses. One true top 6 RWer would be a great add and help with not throwing Coronato to the wolves in his first few seasons. I would also prefer that he gets some time in the A personally (scared that he may be rushed).

[MrMike]

If Backlund and Lindholm are back there is no room for Dube at center.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Sharangovich
Mangiapane - Kadri - Coronato
Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Pelletier - Ruzika - Coronato

A ton of depth actually with almost anyone who can move up and down the line-up. Just need one of Pelletier/Coronato/Sharangovich to click with Huberdeau. I’d be pretty excited if I was one of those kids knowing what opportunity is there for the grabs.

[Sandman]

IMO, if there's any deficiencies in the lineup, it's our size and toughness. Look at Mr.Mike's lineup above- is there a team in the NHL that will be scared to play against us? That might be the softest lineup in the league, and we're going to get beat up and pushed around. Some may not like reading that, but again- until contact is taken out of the sport, size and toughness is a factor.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If Backlund and Lindholm are back there is no room for Dube at center.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Sharangovich
Mangiapane - Kadri - Coronato
Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Pelletier - Ruzika - Coronato

A ton of depth actually with almost anyone who can move up and down the line-up. Just need one of Pelletier/Coronato/Sharangovich to click with Huberdeau. I’d be pretty excited if I was one of those kids knowing what opportunity is there for the grabs.

I think Sharangovich is going to explode if he plays with Huby. Just the shot he has and the areas he goes to has me really excited to land this guy.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think Sharangovich is going to explode if he plays with Huby. Just the shot he has and the areas he goes to has me really excited to land this guy.

I hope you're right, I predicted 30 goals, lol.

[1qqaaz]

I just wish they gave a lot more term to Sharangovich. Only had 1 more year than Toffoli.
I think they should have paid the extra cap hit for term.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I just wish they gave a lot more term to Sharangovich. Only had 1 more year than Toffoli.
I think they should have paid the extra cap hit for term.

Yeah, that's going to burn them really badly if he pops the way they want him to in trading for him. Kind of a weird contract to hand out. "we traded for you hoping you'll explode into a top 6, scoring winger for us....and we also just walked you to free agency in two years, so if you achieve what we want you to, you can leave us and test free agency!".

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If Backlund and Lindholm are back there is no room for Dube at center.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Sharangovich
Mangiapane - Kadri - Coronato
Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Pelletier - Ruzika - Coronato

A ton of depth actually with almost anyone who can move up and down the line-up. Just need one of Pelletier/Coronato/Sharangovich to click with Huberdeau. I’d be pretty excited if I was one of those kids knowing what opportunity is there for the grabs.

If Backlund wants out I would try and move him. Switch Dube to center with Coleman and Duehr. That would be a hard line to play against. Fast line too.

You had Coronato twice.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Sandman

IMO, if there's any deficiencies in the lineup, it's our size and toughness. Look at Mr.Mike's lineup above- is there a team in the NHL that will be scared to play against us? That might be the softest lineup in the league, and we're going to get beat up and pushed around. Some may not like reading that, but again- until contact is taken out of the sport, size and toughness is a factor.

I think losing Lucic will be a bigger deal than people think.

We don’t have a heavy weight anymore other than Big Z. But he’s not really a fighter.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think losing Lucic will be a bigger deal than people think.

We don’t have a heavy weight anymore other than Big Z. But he’s not really a fighter.

How many teams have a heavyweight?
How many good teams do?

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

IMO, if there's any deficiencies in the lineup, it's our size and toughness. Look at Mr.Mike's lineup above- is there a team in the NHL that will be scared to play against us? That might be the softest lineup in the league, and we're going to get beat up and pushed around. Some may not like reading that, but again- until contact is taken out of the sport, size and toughness is a factor.

There are pretty much two types of teams that usually win the Cup. The team with elite talent and the team that are deep and play a heavy game. So anytime teams like Boston, LA, St Louis, Vegas, are brought up as teams that won a cup with arguably less superstar talent, those teams seemed to have all played a similar style. That style is not one I can see the Flames being able to emulate with their roster.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I just wish they gave a lot more term to Sharangovich. Only had 1 more year than Toffoli.
I think they should have paid the extra cap hit for term.

No I think the term is fine. If he pops, sign him to a new deal. If he doesn't want to stay, trade him in 2 years. If he sucks, walk him to FA. Having options is good.

I don't think it's a good idea to lock in middle 6 wingers long term. A good reminder on our own team is Mangiapane. I know more than a few of us wanted to lock in Mangi long term after his last deal. After the season he and the Flames just had, can you imagine if he was on an 8 year 6-6.5M contract? We'd have him on the list with Hubby and Kadri as anchor contracts and the outlook on our team would be even more bleak.

Hoping Sharangovich turns into a 30-30 guy with us. Reward him with a 3×5.5M deal if he does.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Hackey

There are pretty much two types of teams that usually win the Cup. The team with elite talent and the team that are deep and play a heavy game. So anytime teams like Boston, LA, St Louis, Vegas, are brought up as teams that won a cup with arguably less superstar talent, those teams seemed to have all played a similar style. That style is not one I can see the Flames being able to emulate with their roster.

Every team that wins the cup has some manner of size and/or toughness- that's why those things are in high demand every trade deadline. The playoffs are rougher and heavier than the regular season, and you can't win without some sort of pushback in this area.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

How many teams have a heavyweight?
How many good teams do?

That might be true, but you're in trouble when Nazem Kadri is your toughest player. We only have a few players that play a physical game, too.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

How many teams have a heavyweight?
How many good teams do?

They all have a guy or 2 that are willing to go regularly. We really lost all those guys. Gilbert is the closest thing left, but he's more like a 7/8. Preferably you want a forward too.

Edit: There's always Gallant...

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

No I think the term is fine. If he pops, sign him to a new deal. If he doesn't want to stay, trade him in 2 years. If he sucks, walk him to FA. Having options is good.

I don't think it's a good idea to lock in middle 6 wingers long term. A good reminder on our own team is Mangiapane. I know more than a few of us wanted to lock in Mangi long term after his last deal. After the season he and the Flames just had, can you imagine if he was on an 8 year 6-6.5M contract? We'd have him on the list with Hubby and Kadri as anchor contracts and the outlook on our team would be even more bleak.

Hoping Sharangovich turns into a 30-30 guy with us. Reward him with a 3×5.5M deal if he does.

If he turns into a 30-30-60 guy, good luck in signing that UFA to that contract. He’ll want lots of term.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

No I think the term is fine. If he pops, sign him to a new deal. If he doesn't want to stay, trade him in 2 years. If he sucks, walk him to FA. Having options is good.

I don't think it's a good idea to lock in middle 6 wingers long term. A good reminder on our own team is Mangiapane. I know more than a few of us wanted to lock in Mangi long term after his last deal. After the season he and the Flames just had, can you imagine if he was on an 8 year 6-6.5M contract? We'd have him on the list with Hubby and Kadri as anchor contracts and the outlook on our team would be even more bleak.

Hoping Sharangovich turns into a 30-30 guy with us. Reward him with a 3×5.5M deal if he does.

A 28 year old 30-30 guy in 2025/6 will be making a lot more than 3 x 5.5

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Sandman

That might be true, but you're in trouble when Nazem Kadri is your toughest player. We only have a few players that play a physical game, too.

5 years ago I'd agree, but nowadays where they call a million penalties in the playoffs for some reason, those guys are going to hurt you more often than not

[Scroopy Noopers]

Easiest way to not get “pushed around” by your opponent is to outscore them.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I just wish they gave a lot more term to Sharangovich. Only had 1 more year than Toffoli.
I think they should have paid the extra cap hit for term.

That would have been absolutely insane and I refuse to believe a single flames fan would have supported giving term to a guy who was sitting on pine in the playoffs.

Him outplaying his contract is in no way a missed opportunity or a mistake in signing. Jesus ####.