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				I thought players were lining up to take discounts for the privilege of playing with Power McPlayvid and Pissy? 
			
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			08-02-2023, 02:54 PM
			
			
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				I thought players were lining up to take discounts for the privilege of playing with Power McPlayvid and Pissy? 
			
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They are, but that's the problem. 
As a defenseman, Bouchard generally plays behind his how blue line, so he doesn't really get to play with McDavid.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-02-2023, 02:58 PM
			
			
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				$4M is actually fair for Bouchard but the other contracts on that team, mainly Nurse's, make it hard for him to swallow.  And playing with a "no injury" roster seems not ideal.   
 
Plus wouldn't they have to waive the player not on the roster?  Which would be either Pederson or Lavoie.  It won't be Lavoie because he'd be grabbed up.  So they will pay a guy $775K to play in the AHL. 
			
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Oilers run 11 forwards and 7 D under Woodcroft pretty often so they have that option to buy time for a callup if one of their 12 forwards gets injured. 
 
I don't see much concern with waiving either of Pederson/Lavoie. I guess Lavoie might be claimed but every team has a bunch of guys like that at the end of the roster to start the year. 
 
Klim Kostin went through waivers unclaimed last year as an example.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-02-2023, 05:31 PM
			
			
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				Oilers run 11 forwards and 7 D under Woodcroft pretty often so they have that option to buy time for a callup if one of their 12 forwards gets injured.  
 
I don't see much concern with waiving either of Pederson/Lavoie. I guess Lavoie might be claimed but every team has a bunch of guys like that at the end of the roster to start the year.  
 
Klim Kostin went through waivers unclaimed last year as an example. 
			
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I think more of an issue or something look at is if a player like Borgault makes it out of camp, will his extra cap and bonuses keep him down. Same with Broberg, if he is the 7th Dman there are cap and bonus considerations. If he makes it over one of those min league players currently on the roster according to cap friendly, there goes another 100k. 
 
Without a doubt it will be interesting to see what Bouchard comes in at. It potentially could be a one or 2 year bridge, to get him at a low hit for the remainder of the McDavid era.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-02-2023, 05:39 PM
			
			
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			08-02-2023, 05:40 PM
			
			
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			08-02-2023, 06:04 PM
			
			
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				I think more of an issue or something look at is if a player like Borgault makes it out of camp, will his extra cap and bonuses keep him down. Same with Broberg, if he is the 7th Dman there are cap and bonus considerations. If he makes it over one of those min league players currently on the roster according to cap friendly, there goes another 100k.  
 
Without a doubt it will be interesting to see what Bouchard comes in at. It potentially could be a one or 2 year bridge, to get him at a low hit for the remainder of the McDavid era. 
			
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Everything is lining up for Bouchard to get a 1-year deal. This is what I'm hoping for as it will be much more expensive next summer to sign him.
 
This will be the last shot for Edmonton for awhile and right now they are not better than last year.
 
Campbell buyout still might be in play too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-02-2023, 06:16 PM
			
			
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			Can players have a "Waivers anywhere but Edmonton" clause? They should.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-03-2023, 08:10 AM
			
			
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			08-03-2023, 08:14 AM
			
			
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			08-03-2023, 09:06 AM
			
			
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			So weird. And then McD gets his own section of that press release: 
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			08-03-2023, 09:18 AM
			
			
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			08-03-2023, 10:18 AM
			
			
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			08-03-2023, 10:37 AM
			
			
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I was thinking That guys not a former oiler but your post cleared that up for me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-03-2023, 10:39 AM
			
			
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			So, is Holland running the show or is it Jackson?  If Holland is in control, does this make Jackson like an assistant GM with a bigger title?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-03-2023, 10:45 AM
			
			
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				So, is Holland running the show or is it Jackson?  If Holland is in control, does this make Jackson like an assistant GM with a bigger title? 
			
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Holland has one year remaining on his contract and been speculated he is close to retiring.  Jackson may be the replacement.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-03-2023, 10:46 AM
			
			
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			Do they think he will have special influence over McDavid and therefore a re-signing is assured?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-03-2023, 10:49 AM
			
			
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			08-03-2023, 10:51 AM
			
			
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				Do they think he will have special influence over McDavid and therefore a re-signing is assured? 
			
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There is no chance that they will not be throwing everything at keeping him. His marketing value alone is worth any cost.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-03-2023, 11:22 AM
			
			
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