Bet on himself? What are you even talking about? You only need to bet on yourself if there isn't a big contract out there for you - like Taylor Hall did in Buffalo to underwhelming results... When a team offers you 10.5M x 8 years you would look like an absolute moron if you were like 'naah, I'll bet on myself thanks'... to what outcome? What better outcome would he have been hoping for by betting on himself?
Yeah there was no bet to be made. He already won and took all the money off the table.
Could HAVE bet on himself? By doing what - waiting to be a UFA and then making a tiny bit more? As you say, he got a good contract for himself.
No one has said he is unhappy he's now in Calgary. They said he was, among other things, shocked by the move, thrust into a team in upheaval, etc. Could he have overcome all that - maybe, but the team performance didn't help. One wonder how his seaosn would have gone if the success he had in the last 10 games or so occurred at the beginning. Momentum is big in a player's psyche I bet.
Yep. Bet on himself and then signed a long term high money deal somewhere else. Its constant excuses with new players coming to Calgary and ####ting the bed.
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Yep. Bet on himself and then signed a long term high money deal somewhere else. Its constant excuses with new players coming to Calgary and ####ting the bed.
That's silly. He never said he didn't appreciate coming here, and he signed a good deal. Still doesn't mean it wasn't an upheaval.
Tkachuk didn't seem to have a problem with a new team and a new city.
Yeah, almost like people are all different individuals and some are better at some things than others. Weird, right?
Tkachuk has seemed like someone that doesn't exactly battle confidence issues. He probably Dion Phaneufed it, marched in their and changed the music playing in the dressing room on day one.
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Besides, Tkachuk orchestrated the whole thing, planned it. Huberdeau got a phone call, "pack your #### you're going to Calgary". He was fully expecting to sign another contract with the Panthers.
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Thats what I'm pointing at. Whether he bounces back or not all the money is his in Calgary now.
As opposed to? I’m not sure what you’re pointing at… he was traded, offered a fair contract based on past performance and accepted… am I missing something here? Pretty standard transaction.
Not to mention he is a pass first player and two of the best Flames at putting the puck in the net left. Now the final cog of the line could go and the top scorer from last year is gone. Who is he going to pass the puck to that can put it in the net.
Huberdeau has always excelled with good but not great goal scorers. Lindholm, Kadri, Mangiapane, Sharangovich, etc... are all just as good if not better than what he had to work with in Florida.
Huberdeau has always excelled with good but not great goal scorers. Lindholm, Kadri, Mangiapane, Sharangovich, etc... are all just as good if not better than what he had to work with in Florida.
It's because most teams put their best goal scorers on the top line where the opposition usually matches them with the best defensive players. He is a skilled guy, but doesn't play through tough defense as well as most elite players.
Putting him on the 2nd line where he can exploit weaker match-ups is what Florida found worked, even if his line mates were not the best goal scorers on the team.
It's harder here though, because we don't have the topline depth Florida has.
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It's because most teams put their best goal scorers on the top line where the opposition usually matches them with the best defensive players. He is a skilled guy, but doesn't play through tough defense as well as most elite players.
Putting him on the 2nd line where he can exploit weaker match-ups is what Florida found worked, even if his line mates were not the best goal scorers on the team.
It's harder here though, because we don't have the topline depth Florida has.
Interesting points, he might still do well just not as well as he did in Florida. I am in the wait and see club. Hopefully things click for him.
They play a game for half a year, they are all overpaid.
Firstly, elite sports is hardly a game, I don't believe you can say that about any top level athlete with the amount of pressure placed upon them.
Secondly, supply and demand determines the monetary worth of pretty much everything that is not regulated. So, it's hard to say hockey players or actors etc. are overpaid when the market dictates their contract.
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And a 55 point player last year and another year older.
You are hoping for success right?
Or are you so bent on the player that you actually want him to fail so you can stay upset?
He cares, there is little doubt. That's big for me. He was never going to live up to the contract given the age it was signed. Don't expect him to be a 115 player again, but hopeful he bounces back to an 85 point season and gets a check mark on year one of his deal.
You're hoping for the same right?
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