[Signing] Sens sign Tarasenko (1 yr, $5 million)

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Do you think there are any other teams that will line up to give him any more than 5 M with term? no matter what he does this year.


I don't think the Flames will ever again chase 30+ players signing them past 35.

Now the Sens have a great lineup, with a high risk - Giroux will be 36 this season and Taresenko 32. 11.5 cap hit so they HAVE to deliver. If they drop off their top-6 is not that solid.

They also have to be somewhat concerned with Norris who basically shown the potential to be a top 6 player. He had almost the same year as Mangiapane in 2021-22. Both seemed to be really good chance to be solid top-6 players and now both have to step up and prove it.

Batherson has the WJC 2018 shadow lingering over him.

The Sens don't have a high risk line up becuase of one 36 year old and signing a 32 year old to a one year show me deal on top of a young star, locked up core, lol. And you're way off on Norris as well. Your takes on non Winnipeg Jets Canadian teams is pure goobly gob.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

This was always the other shoe that has to drop on the DeBrincat trade. Pretty good move by the Sens, get a player of comparable ability and picked up some futures for a guy who was not going to sign and would have cost more money this year.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Batherson - Norris - Tarasenko

If healthy that should be a top six that has 3 80+ point guys and 3 60+ point guys

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - Chychrun

Backend is pretty good, only question is the goaltending.

Signed Korpisalo, so not so bad.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

And these "people", are they in the room right now? Cause it was you dude.

exactly, fool me once...and it was 90% of posters, while you are busy looking up posts over a year old (get a life) check on that
Lets see how well the Sens do, they are a bubble team at best
I have fallen for their nonsense before

who drops out of the playoffs and puts the Sens in? not to mention Detroit, Buffalo ect.

Sens also didn't have some amazing rebuild plan...they have been trying to compete for a few years now. Traded 7th overall just last season. Signed older players.


anyone who wants to put money on the Sens being a playoff team come at me...I bet it gets pretty quiet as usual

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by dino7c

exactly, fool me once...and it was 90% of posters, while you are busy looking up posts over a year old (get a life) check on that
Lets see how well the Sens do, they are a bubble team at best
I have fallen for their nonsense before

who drops out of the playoffs and puts the Sens in? not to mention Detroit, Buffalo ect.

Sens also didn't have some amazing rebuild plan...they have been trying to compete for a few years now. Traded 7th overall just last season. Signed older players.


anyone who wants to put money on the Sens being a playoff team come at me...I bet it gets pretty quiet as usual

Lol. You were the only one I recall pumping the Senators up. In the Debrincat trade, other than me bemoaning the Hawks smartly tanking for Bedard, it was mostly just "good trade, Sens should improve, could fight for a playoff spot in a couple years" No one claimed they were massively improving or expected to be a contender.

Which is also funny since last year you said they got their picks but now need to try and win. So they do that by trading their 7th for a proven commodity, break out of the basement and likely make the playoffs if not for their top 6 center missing the season. But now you're saying they erred by trying to win by moving out the 7th for proven players (Debrincat->Kubalik). It's pretty obvious you would be criticizing them for anything because they made you look silly last year.

Also, trying to compete the last couple years? Sure, with the pennies Melnyk found in his couch that he was willing to give up. New owners will likely be willing to spend to cap, a luxury they haven't had.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by dino7c

exactly, fool me once...and it was 90% of posters, while you are busy looking up posts over a year old (get a life) check on that
Lets see how well the Sens do, they are a bubble team at best
I have fallen for their nonsense before

who drops out of the playoffs and puts the Sens in? not to mention Detroit, Buffalo ect.

Sens also didn't have some amazing rebuild plan...they have been trying to compete for a few years now. Traded 7th overall just last season. Signed older players.


anyone who wants to put money on the Sens being a playoff team come at me...I bet it gets pretty quiet as usual

Man you are one toxic person.
Your schtick is wearing very thin, any time anyone gives any player or team the slightest complement you are there to provide some one-sided stat to remind us all that you are unable to give credit to any player not wearing a flaming C.
Mocking a poster for looking up what you said that contradicts your current opinion? Classy
Tkachuk gets traded, you always are there to remind us he's not that great, Toffoli gets traded, you're quick to point out the only reason he was our top scorer is because the other guys didn't show up, so he wasn't really our top scorer according to you.
I'm sure if we went back and looked at the bets you were willing to make you probably lose over half (I'd go look but then I'd be a loser, right?)
New game, anytime you get into it with anyone, how many posts till you want to bet? I put the over/under at 5, what do you think the betting sites will have it at?

[PepsiFree]

Dino is the best when you agree with him and the worst when you disagree with him, which makes him a lot of fun to have around here.

Calling him toxic for trashing other teams/former Flames and defending the Flames at every turn is a little much. This isn’t a bipartisan high school debate club, it’s a Flames fan board. Let’s be a little sporting about it.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Dino is the best when you agree with him and the worst when you disagree with him, which makes him a lot of fun to have around here.

Calling him toxic for trashing other teams/former Flames and defending the Flames at every turn is a little much. This isn’t a bipartisan high school debate club, it’s a Flames fan board. Let’s be a little sporting about it.

If he can tell posters to "get a life", "shut up", and another a "jackass" in his last six posts he can handle me calling him toxic.

The comment was more around how he interacts with others, not his beliefs on the Flames or other teams.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

exactly, fool me once
Lets see how well the Sens do, they are a bubble team at best
I have fallen for their nonsense before

who drops out of the playoffs and puts the Sens in? not to mention Detroit, Buffalo ect.

Sens also didn't have some amazing rebuild plan...they have been trying to compete for a few years now. Traded 7th overall just last season. Signed older players.


anyone who wants to put money on the Sens being a playoff team come at me...I bet it gets pretty quiet

Well they did actively try to move older players for younger players after the Matt Duchene experience did not work. They decided to try to go for it after coming within 1 game of the Stanely Cup Final in 2017.

But by September 2018 they were rebuilding because they knew that although they had one good season they did not have the pieces to really compete and by the end of the 2019/2020 season they had in 18 months done the following trades

Traded Stone for a former First round pick and a second round pick

Traded Duchene for two first round picks and a prospect

Traded Dzingel for two second round picks and Duclair

Traded Karlsson for Josh Norris, two firsts, two seconds and three NHL Players (Balcers, Tierney, Demelo)

Traded Pageau for a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd

Traded Ennis for a 5th

Traded Namestikov for a 4th

Traded Demelo for a 3rd

They made some minor trades in 2020/21 picking up an additional 2nd round pick.

They tried to compete last year for the first time.

But it is completely false to say that they have been trying to compete for a few years now, they had a plan, load up on prospects and hope that it worked. And it seems like it has, due to the trades and their position in the standings, since they decided to rebuild (18/19), since that time they have drafted the following players who have contributed at the NHL level

Shane Pinto
Tim Stutzle
Mark Kastelic
Jake Sanderson
Ridley Greig

They also have a number of prospects in the pipeline.

But don't let your heart be troubled, I am sure they will be fine. Stutzle looks like he will be a 100 point guy sometime in the next couple seasons, Tkachuk is a PPG guy, Batherson and Norris are likely 60 point guys and they have 3 studs on the backend. And all young so they can make another run at a Cup like they did 6 years ago.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Well they did actively try to move older players for younger players after the Matt Duchene experience did not work. They decided to try to go for it after coming within 1 game of the Stanely Cup Final in 2017.

But by September 2018 they were rebuilding because they knew that although they had one good season they did not have the pieces to really compete and by the end of the 2019/2020 season they had in 18 months done the following trades

No, they tried quite hard to keep EK and Stone. They were dragged into rebuild by circumstance, not intention, as is almost always the case.

They tried to compete last year for the first time.

But it is completely false to say that they have been trying to compete for a few years now, they had a plan, load up on prospects and hope that it worked.

They traded a 2nd+prospect for Murray in October 2020. Then a 2nd (became 37OA) for 1 expensive year of Stepan a few months later.

And a few other later picks for depth, including a 3rd for Hamonic.

Nothing 'wrong' about any of those trades (except Stepan) per se, as it is possible to have too many draft picks...but it's also fair to say they have been flirting with the gas pedal for a while now. 1 pick in the top 70 over the last 2 drafts.