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Old 07-20-2023, 11:14 AM   #5161
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It's common knowledge Swayman is a backup goaltender.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:15 AM   #5162
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:16 AM   #5163
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Calling Swayman a Ferrari is a stretch. A massive stretch. NOT a player you move a #1 center for. I get that your thing is to pump up prospects but the suggestion is laughable. It would be like the Flames suggesting they could get a #1 pivot for Dustin Wolf, regardless of the number of other prospects thrown into the mix. You make that deal for a proven starter that can transform a franchise, and this is not Swayman. Goaltenders are voodoo and there is way too much risk on them. I don't see any goaltender changing the fortunes of this team. They need more offense and losing a player of Lindholm's stature for another goaltending "prospect" would be a massive failure and cost anyone making that decision their job.
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It's common knowledge Swayman is a backup goaltender.
Right now he is. All goalies start out as backups. He’s highly regarded around the league.

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Old 07-20-2023, 11:33 AM   #5164
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- cap compliance - Penguins are looking for a third team to take a player like Granlund or hold onto a portion of Karlsson's salary
In a year where Taylor Hall was essentially free, moving 2 years of Granlund's cap hit of $5M (with $11M of total salary) will not be easy, and maybe impossible.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:38 AM   #5165
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If Boston does move Swayman somewhere, maybe they'd be interested in giving Vladar a second go?
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:47 AM   #5166
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If Boston does move Swayman somewhere, maybe they'd be interested in giving Vladar a second go?
Well I know Vladar was popular in beantown. Fans were pissed when he was moved.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:49 AM   #5167
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Why are we even thinking about adding Swayman ? Wolf is coming up and has a higher Ceiling.
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Swayman isn’t a backup, but he’s far from a future star as well.

Anyway you slice it he would be a terrible target in a Lindholm trade considering our goaltending situation.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:58 AM   #5169
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Why are we even thinking about adding Swayman ? Wolf is coming up and has a higher Ceiling.
We aren’t really. I speculated last night about it for conversation’s sake.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:07 PM   #5170
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The Jets should be in on Swayman.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:09 PM   #5171
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The Jets should be in on Swayman.
Edmonton too.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:44 PM   #5172
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Just spitballin'....

What about trading Lindholm for something around Swayman? It's all over the internet that Boston wants to trade a goalie, and it would allow us to trade one of Markstrom or Vladar (seems like there's a fairly good market for Vladar).

Boston also has RW Fabian Lysell, C Matt Poitras, D Mason Lohrei, and C Brett Harrison. I've long been a fan of 6'3"C Johnny Beecher, who has struggled to put up offense thus far in the NCAA and AHL- but he's a fantastic skater, ultra-competitive, and rugged as hell. They just drafted C Beckett Hendrickson in the 2023 Draft, who I did a write-up on, and I rather like him too. The latter 2 players are American, though....

Then there's the usual LW Jake DeBrusk, and D Brandon Carlo that are both good. I would be over the moon if they were willing to part with C Pavel Zacha, or C Trent Frederic.
I don't see the logic in dealing a prime chip like a #1C to land a goaltender as the centerpiece in the return, where that's an organizational strength even with a down year from Markstrom. Especially when you'd have to move another goaltender in a tricky trade market right now. Doesn't add up for me.

Swayman's a nice piece, but not for the Flames and the situation we're in.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:48 PM   #5173
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I don't see the logic in dealing a prime chip like a #1C to land a goaltender as the centerpiece in the return, where that's an organizational strength even with a down year from Markstrom. Especially when you'd have to move another goaltender in a tricky trade market right now. Doesn't add up for me.

Swayman's a nice piece, but not for the Flames and the situation we're in.
I think there was only one real suggestion of Swayman to Calgary, the balance of the discussion was trading him generally.
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Old 07-20-2023, 02:14 PM   #5174
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I would be over the moon if they were willing to part with C Pavel Zacha, or C Trent Frederic.
i'm with you on Frederic, but more around Backlund.
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Are we really content pacifying ourselves with Sec's cryptic gifs?

When's the last time he posted something of substance!
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Are we really content pacifying ourselves with Sec's cryptic gifs?

When's the last time he posted something of substance!
Who gives a ****?
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I think Sec was just echoing dissentowner’s assertion that all is quiet right now….
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Are we really content pacifying ourselves with Sec's cryptic gifs?

When's the last time he posted something of substance!
Do you feel that he owes you something?
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