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				Sabres make zero sense. They have Thompson, Cozens, Mittlestadt, Krebs, and Jost down the middle.  
 
Eklund should at least take the time to look at a depth chart before he makes this stuff up. 
			
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Sabres probably make the most sense. Get a good reliable 200ft vet in there to show the kids the ropes.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 05:41 PM
			
			
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Lindholm 
Hanifin 
Backlund 
Mangiapane 
2025 1st (FLA's own pick traded to us in the Tkachuk trade) 
2024 2nd 
 
Lindholm, Hanifin, and Backlund all sign extensions with FLA 
 
To Calgary: 
 
Barkov 
Ekblad 
Reinhart 
2025 4th (CGY's own pick traded to Florida in the Tkachuk trade) 
 
Calgary Panthers 
 
Florida Flames 
 
2024 Stanley Cup Finals
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 06:01 PM
			
			
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				To Florida: 
 
Lindholm 
Hanifin 
Backlund 
Mangiapane 
2025 1st (FLA's own pick traded to us in the Tkachuk trade) 
2024 2nd 
 
Lindholm, Hanifin, and Backlund all sign extensions with FLA 
 
To Calgary: 
 
Barkov 
Ekblad 
Reinhart 
2025 4th (CGY's own pick traded to Florida in the Tkachuk trade) 
 
Calgary Panthers 
 
Florida Flames 
 
2024 Stanley Cup Finals 
			
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 I doubt that Florida wants to dismantle the team that went to the Stanley  cup finals for a number of players who haven’t enjoyed that kind I’d success.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 06:06 PM
			
			
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			I know, just helps Conroy kill all birds with one stone lol.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				To Florida: 
 
Lindholm 
Hanifin 
Backlund 
Mangiapane 
2025 1st (FLA's own pick traded to us in the Tkachuk trade) 
2024 2nd 
 
Lindholm, Hanifin, and Backlund all sign extensions with FLA 
 
To Calgary: 
 
Barkov 
Ekblad 
Reinhart 
2025 4th (CGY's own pick traded to Florida in the Tkachuk trade) 
 
Calgary Panthers 
 
Florida Flames 
 
2024 Stanley Cup Finals 
			
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I should try this on NHL 23 and see if it actually works
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-18-2023, 06:33 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  ayetee
					 
				 
				To Florida: 
 
Lindholm 
Hanifin 
Backlund 
Mangiapane 
2025 1st (FLA's own pick traded to us in the Tkachuk trade) 
2024 2nd 
 
Lindholm, Hanifin, and Backlund all sign extensions with FLA 
 
To Calgary: 
 
Barkov 
Ekblad 
Reinhart 
2025 4th (CGY's own pick traded to Florida in the Tkachuk trade) 
 
Calgary Panthers 
 
Florida Flames 
 
2024 Stanley Cup Finals 
			
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About that Florida 1st....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-18-2023, 06:36 PM
			
			
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			Yup, Coronato is going to be a player. Can't wait to watch him full time. He's impressed at every level and tournament.  
 
As for Backlund, I would do Backs for Krebs straight across.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 06:55 PM
			
			
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			How bad is Jack Quinn’s injury?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 07:02 PM
			
			
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				How bad is Jack Quinn’s injury? 
			
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Out for around 6 months. 
 
Should be back in late November early December.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 07:10 PM
			
			
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			Buffalo would be crazy to part with him, but man- I would trade Lindholm straight across for that kid.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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				Buffalo would be crazy to part with him, but man- I would trade Lindholm straight across for that kid. 
			
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These types of trades, where the Flames trade a star on their way out for an elite prospect, have been the best trades in franchise history.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 07:26 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  ayetee
					 
				 
				To Florida: 
 
Lindholm 
Hanifin 
Backlund 
Mangiapane 
2025 1st (FLA's own pick traded to us in the Tkachuk trade) 
2024 2nd 
 
Lindholm, Hanifin, and Backlund all sign extensions with FLA 
 
To Calgary: 
 
Barkov 
Ekblad 
Reinhart 
2025 4th (CGY's own pick traded to Florida in the Tkachuk trade) 
 
Calgary Panthers 
 
Florida Flames 
 
2024 Stanley Cup Finals 
			
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Good joke
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 07:41 PM
			
			
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				Buffalo would be crazy to part with him, but man- I would trade Lindholm straight across for that kid. 
			
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Same. 
 
I would really want the team doctors involved though because ruptured Achilles tendons can really derail someone's career. 
 
Karlson had a similar injury in the 2012-2013 season and came back as good as ever. Karlson only tore his tendon though (70% tear) and Quinn has completely ruptured his. Pacioretty has ruptured his Achilles tendon twice now (same foot) and I have no idea if he will ever play again due to this. 
 
The injury is quite rare in hockey but it is a lot more prominent in the NBA where if often shaves years off of a player's career. Its no joke.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 08:48 PM
			
			
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Yeah, but their D is an issue, as is the general undersized forwards.  Reminds me of the Leafs trying the run and gun a few years ago.  Makes for great entertainment, but placing money on them to win with the same players top to bottom is a little much.  I think they need to be a little more Carolina defensively.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 11:17 PM
			
			
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			Cmp Dave posted on Twitter (might have deleted it but took a screenshot of mods want to see) that Avs wanted backs at 50% for a 3rd and contract back (he listed McDermid). Given that Avs didn’t have their 3rd this past year, it was either a 2024/25 3rd or he’s blowing smoke or it’s a fresh offer. Avs have 2.8m left in cap room so Backs at 50% and taking a contract back is doable. Also gives us $1.7m in cap space. Might be able to get 1 or 2 bargain ufas near league minimum with the space we would open up. Can move one of the C they brought in to wing and put backs in top 9.  
 
Not ideal return but if we can make cap room to bring in a good player, might have to think of it from that perspective, if we are wanting to improve the team in the off season in a tight market. As much as we think Backs should fetch a bigger return, the market is the market. And just don’t want the distraction during the season.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 11:27 PM
			
			
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				Cmp Dave posted on Twitter (might have deleted it but took a screenshot of mods want to see) that Avs wanted backs at 50% for a 3rd and contract back (he listed McDermid). Given that Avs didn’t have their 3rd this past year, it was either a 2024/25 3rd or he’s blowing smoke or it’s a fresh offer. Avs have 2.8m left in cap room so Backs at 50% and taking a contract back is doable. Also gives us $1.7m in cap space. Might be able to get 1 or 2 bargain ufas near league minimum with the space we would open up. Can move one of the C they brought in to wing and put backs in top 9.  
 
Not ideal return but if we can make cap room to bring in a good player, might have to think of it from that perspective, if we are wanting to improve the team in the off season in a tight market. As much as we think Backs should fetch a bigger return, the market is the market. And just don’t want the distraction during the season. 
			
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I don't see it being a distraction at all and I would rather see what the deadline brings or how the team is competively than deal him at 50% retained for a cap dump and a late 3rd.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 11:28 PM
			
			
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			I think Conny will just wait until the TDL to trade Backs- we might get more for him at that time.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2023, 11:45 PM
			
			
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			And then the question is why would a team give up assets for Backlund when they could sign one of these UFA’s?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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