[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Not right now.

But it's easily something that could happen in 3 or 4 years.

A lot of things could happen in that time

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I don't understand how rebuild advocates don't see this...signing Lindholm is in fact more likely to lead to a full rebuild than not...we just have to wait a few more years.

The best case scenario of a more aggressive re-tool now actually working out (which is unlikely) would just mean the Huby and Kadri contracts actually come back to bite us when we're trying to be good. It's a recipe for perpetual mediocrity.

"I want the Flames to be bad and get high picks"

"OMG if the Flames sign these guys they will be bad in a few years!"

Same posters

It's a weird time in the NHL, lots of average teams. They are already locked in to a bunch of guys...they would have been a good team with good goaltending last season. Take a massive swing...if it fails rebuild

Young guys in the bottom six, Wolf/Markstrom have good years, and trade Hanifin for a top six forward.

Seems like a good team to me

Every other team is full of holes too...who here called Vegas winning the cup last summer?

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

not really, every single team has contracts like this

Which teams do you see in a similar position to Calgary?

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by dino7c

A lot of things could happen in that time

Not much can happen if your cap is locked in and can't be moved for many more years.

Originally Posted by dino7c

"I want the Flames to be bad and get high picks"

"OMG if the Flames sign these guys they will be bad in a few years!"

I think the point is they will be bad and not be able to do anything about it. That's kinda what I've been seeing.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by transplant99

We cover our babies face for privacy reasons, but why don't you go follow our instagram account where we highlight the location, detailed layout, walkthrough, and security features of the mansion we're building...

(It's a joke)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Groot

(It's a joke)

I didn't think it was very funny.


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[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I didn't think it was very funny.


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WHOAH, relax Textcritic! Did a fly come poop in your cornflakes!

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I didn't think it was very funny.


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Can't win 'em all.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Not much can happen if your cap is locked in and can't be moved for many more years.

I think the point is they will be bad and not be able to do anything about it. That's kinda what I've been seeing.

If they are bad they will get high picks

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I didn't think it was very funny.


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You've also never thought anything in life was funny, ever. So there's that.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by jayswin

You've also never thought anything in life was funny, ever. So there's that.

E=NG
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

E=NG

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

You beat me to it.

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[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Hackey

When you're talking about buyout strategies, hoping the cap goes up so the contracts don't age so poorly, hoping and praying your players age decently into their mid and late 30s, you should see clearly this is a very poor way to build a competitive team.

NHL teams are behind other leagues in their cap handling. You have to be creative and that is one way to do it in the NHL.

In the NFL you can be more creative with cap hits, but teams like the Eagles come up with all kinds of wacky structures to take advantage of fact that the cap is growing so spending $2m in 2028 is much better than spending $2m in 2023.

You can't do this in the NHL - but look at the Jalen Hurts contract - https://overthecap.com/player/jalen-hurts/8793 - they are pushing money out so far because its easier to deal with in when the cap is 10%-20% higher then than it is now.

If you can lock up a good player for 4 productive years - 30-34 or whatever at the cost spending 2% of the cap in 2029 on a buyout - its a decent piece of business. Especially if guys reaching that age are undervalued because everyone is worried about the cap hit in 2029 when the guy is 36.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Even the official NHL account sees Lindy as a 2nd line center

https://twitter.com/user/status/1680594387921772544

[Poe969]

He'd be great on Colorado or Washington imo.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

NHL teams are behind other leagues in their cap handling. You have to be creative and that is one way to do it in the NHL.

In the NFL you can be more creative with cap hits, but teams like the Eagles come up with all kinds of wacky structures to take advantage of fact that the cap is growing so spending $2m in 2028 is much better than spending $2m in 2023.

You can't do this in the NHL - but look at the Jalen Hurts contract - https://overthecap.com/player/jalen-hurts/8793 - they are pushing money out so far because its easier to deal with in when the cap is 10%-20% higher then than it is now.

If you can lock up a good player for 4 productive years - 30-34 or whatever at the cost spending 2% of the cap in 2029 on a buyout - its a decent piece of business. Especially if guys reaching that age are undervalued because everyone is worried about the cap hit in 2029 when the guy is 36.

It would be a good strategy if you were a contender and needed to keep a specific player or maybe sign a specific player to push you over the top. The way the Flames are using this strategy it's more like we can maybe make playoffs for a few years then will deal with these contracts. It's not we can contend for a few years, hopefully win a cup, then deal with these contracts. And if you have 1 or 2 sure but not 3 or 4.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hackey

It's not we can contend for a few years, hopefully win a cup, then deal with these contracts.

Except it is. Just because you don't want it to be doesn't make it so.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except it is. Just because you don't want it to be doesn't make it so.

This team is a contender if you really want extend the number of teams that are contenders. Don’t think many would take the Flames next year over the Avs, Stars, Knights, Oilers or Kings in the West. Could make an argument against the Wild and Kraken. Wild card or 3rd in the pacific is probably the best case scenario.

Just because some people think this team is a legitimate Stanley Cup contender does not make it so.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

This team is a contender if you really want extend the number of teams that are contenders. Don’t think many would take the Flames next year over the Avs, Stars, Knights, Oilers or Kings in the West. Could make an argument against the Wild and Kraken. Wild card or 3rd in the pacific is probably the best case scenario.

Just because some people think this team is a legitimate Stanley Cup contender does not make it so.

Well we don't know what this team is yet. There are way too many unknowns still.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Well we don't know what this team is yet. There are way too many unknowns still.

I guess, but if the Flames are in the Stanley Cup contender category then the capitals and jets are too. It is a pretty big category to get the Flames into it.