[Rumour] Backlund leaning towards not re-signing with Flames

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

For example, it seemed that the Pelletier comment was a direct shot at an unfair question. the guys first game, full of special teams, only got about 7 minutes of ice. Tough to make a fair evaluation. Not Pelletiers fault but any opinion on his performance in a weird game like that wouldn't be fair to him.
Sure Sutter could have answered it that way, but as you said, he usually made smart ass comments to questions like that, immediately after a game especially.

He's not an #######, it is just the way he is.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

For example, it seemed that the Pelletier comment was a direct shot at an unfair question. the guys first game, full of special teams, only got about 7 minutes of ice. Tough to make a fair evaluation. Not Pelletiers fault but any opinion on his performance in a weird game like that wouldn't be fair to him.
Sure Sutter could have answered it that way, but as you said, he usually made smart ass comments to questions like that, immediately after a game especially.

I was going to say exactly the same thing. First game and heavy on special teams. It wasn't a game that he could really be evaluated fairly on. Sutter was obviously expecting the question and prepared a snarky answer that came off in a bad way.

I don't think he meant to insult Pelletier, but it was also dumb to make the point the way he did. What he should have said was exactly what the situation was. Like it wasn't a great game to give him an opportunity to show what he can do due to how the game played out, but with what little time he had, he earned more opportunities. I think Sutter is a really good coach in a lot of important ways, but I wish he could have acted a little more normal when it came to things he would say to the media.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah what an unfair questions asking how a player performed in his first game, after being scratched for no reason for long period of time.

I think the Pierre LeBrun and Katie Strang article a few months ago touched on everything, everything is being repeated and rehashed again.

Time to get back on topic about Backlund and his intentions of if he wants to sign or not.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I was going to say exactly the same thing. First game and heavy on special teams. It wasn't a game that he could really be evaluated fairly on. Sutter was obviously expecting the question and prepared a snarky answer that came off in a bad way.

I don't think he meant to insult Pelletier, but it was also dumb to make the point the way he did. What he should have said was exactly what the situation was. Like it wasn't a great game to give him an opportunity to show what he can do due to how the game played out, but with what little time he had, he earned more opportunities. I think Sutter is a really good coach in a lot of important ways, but I wish he could have acted a little more normal when it came to things he would say to the media.

That's incredibly dry and boring though. Would rather have Sutterisms.

The players trot out robotic cliche answers and people talk about how they want more personality in the game.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It wasn't out of the blue or out of character. Sutter had been giving smart ass answers to media questions for over 20 years.

“What did you say to the guys after the game”

“…. Fly at 11”.

[bdubbs]

Serves me right for leaving this thread all day. I felt like I was back in October 2022 with the 'taking a dump' discussion the last few pages.

[MissTeeks]

I hate the offseason.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

I hate the offseason.

It's like one long, continuous game thread

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It also doesn't scream leadership. Leaders make decisions once they have the necessary information, not ponder for months. How could you still be unsure in mid July whether you want to stay long term or be traded somewhere else.

I think this trite and stereotypical. Jarome Iginla is widely regarded to have been one of this team's most iconic leaders, and he did just that: Iginla waffled for months about whether or not to seek a trade to another team.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm 100% not a Sutter apologist. His style had obviously worn thin and he made some very strange moves this season. But that "taking a s**t" business - that baffled me as far as how much outrage there was. It was so obviously tongue in cheek and not a reflection on Huberdeau at all.

Agreed.

In the moment I was stunned about the reports of how much players—not just Huberdeau—were upset by this. In retrospect, I think it's a situation in which Sutter had not yet earned the benefit of making the kind of public joke he had attempted to land. It seems clear now that at the time Huberdeau and other players did not trust what Sutter was doing, so for him then to make a joke like that I think many of them interpreted as disrespectful.

It seemed like such a little thing from the outside, but looking back on it I think I can understand just how badly it poisoned the room, and spun things out of control.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

...The fact that certain players on the team both (1) knew what Sutter was doing and (2) then insinuated that Sutter directed these comments at Huberdeau and Pelletiir are indicative of a group of players who

(1) have thin skin and lack maturity
(2) are of weak moral character
(3) are more interested in tarnishing Sutter than looking inwards and realizing their garbage play is their own fault.

I think this is bull ####.

[Fan in Exile]

I find the whining about the players et al having thin skin is rich considering the simultaneous whinging about the media asking poor 64-year-old Darryl with over 700 games coaching experience "unfair" questions like what did you think of a player's first game. It's part of the job. If you can't be respectful, you won't be respected. Happened to Darryl in LA, it happened here and good riddance.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think this trite and stereotypical. Jarome Iginla is widely regarded to have been one of this team's most iconic leaders, and he did just that: Iginla waffled for months about whether or not to seek a trade to another team.

That's a stretch to compare any current player to Iginla, nor the 2013 and 2024 situations.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Agreed.

In the moment I was stunned about the reports of how much players—not just Huberdeau—were upset by this. In retrospect, I think it's a situation in which Sutter had not yet earned the benefit of making the kind of public joke he had attempted to land. It seems clear now that at the time Huberdeau and other players did not trust what Sutter was doing, so for him then to make a joke like that I think many of them interpreted as disrespectful.

It seemed like such a little thing from the outside, but looking back on it I think I can understand just how badly it poisoned the room, and spun things out of control.

It's why you hear its so important about coaches developing relationships with players, so you can joke around with them, push their buttons etc.

Throwing a random comment like that through the media if you don't know the person you don't know what it means.

I thought it was a nothing comment, but the person receiving it may thing different who knows.

You don't show up to work and the next day crack a joke that can be taken a different way if the people don't know you.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's why you hear its so important about coaches developing relationships with players, so you can joke around with them, push their buttons etc.

Throwing a random comment like that through the media if you don't know the person you don't know what it means.

I thought it was a nothing comment, but the person receiving it may thing different who knows.

You don't show up to work and the next day crack a joke that can be taken a different way if the people don't know you.

He didn’t say it the second day on the job.

Weren’t you preaching about letting all the Sutter stuff go? I think most agree letting him go was the necessary decision.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

That's a stretch to compare any current player to Iginla, nor the 2013 and 2024 situations.

Now you are special pleading: you are the one who made the claim that indecision was a sign of poor leadership. Either this is true across the board, or it is not.

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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Now you are special pleading: you are the one who made the claim that indecision was a sign of poor leadership. Either this is true across the board, or it is not.

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Sign of, not the absolute determinant.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Huberdaeau was injured and left the bench.
After the game Salim asked what happened to Huby. Sutter never talks about injuries. So he very sarcastically says what he said. It was a shot at Salim for asking, what Sutter thought, was a stupid question. It was not a shot at Huby

Even if Huby was offended both Sutter and him should have mended fences and been done with it for the betterment of the team. The fact that they continued to display a dislike for one another after this comment shows un-professional conduct by both coach and player. Obviously egos took precedence over team unification.

Also, seems like Sutter has gone about doing his business after being fired and stayed quiet. Huberdeau has taken some shots (in the French media) and still seems to harbor some resentment. Switch your focus and get ready for next season.

The locker room seems disjointed and something isn't right and I think that extends beyond the Sutter effect. Who knows what the issues are but Conroy has a tough job ahead of him. Hopefully he knows the culprits and can remove some of the toxicity and focus on gaining respectability again.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lol they asked a day after his firing it's the first and last time he has said anything about Sutter and it wasn't even negative.

You Huberdeau haters need new material hes been focused on his offseason.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Huberdaeau was injured and left the bench.
After the game Salim asked what happened to Huby. Sutter never talks about injuries. So he very sarcastically says what he said. It was a shot at Salim for asking, what Sutter thought, was a stupid question. It was not a shot at Huby

I asked the question.