Evangelist and Kirk Cameron to scientifically 'prove' god's existence

[Flashpoint]

I know I don't make a move without checking what Kirk Cameron thinks.

God sure has caused a lot of shennanigans.

[RougeUnderoos]

Dawkins says something in his book about how arrogant it is to believe the activities of our daily lives and even the thoughts in our heads have some sort of "cosmic significance". I like that phrase.

The two nimrods in the video probably believe that God is watching down on them, reading their minds and approving of the ridiculous message about the banana. They no doubt believe that this banana discussion is just another step towards an eternity spent in paradise. If they weren't so influential I'd feel sorry for them. It's like a mental illness or maybe disability. I don't mean to be insulting (well, except when I called them nimrods) but these beliefs are really crazy.*

*And no, I don't mean "belief in God is crazy", I mean these specific guys and what they believe is crazy. Holding up a piece of genetically modified fruit and saying it proves God exists is crazy.

[Barnes]

I really cant be bothered to watch the clip because I don't like to be reminded of how stupid man kind is anymore than I have to.

Here are some interesting tid bits about Kirk Cameron from Wikipedia;

During the 1989–1990 season, Mike's wedding to Julie (played by Julie McCullough) was cancelled when she left him a note saying she could not go through with it. There was a backlash from fans so she appeared in a later episode where she discussed her decision with Mike.
Kirk Cameron had insisted that McCullough be fired for posing for Playboy magazine. Cameron later apologized for his actions (see below). McCullough did not find out she was being dismissed until showing up to film what she thought was a wedding episode.[citation needed]
After Cameron's religious conversion, his beliefs frequently interfered with production of the show. He insisted that no "adult themes" be incorporated into episodes, and he often demanded that entire episodes be re-written when he objected to the content (when one planned episode revolved around Julie giving Mike the key to her apartment, Cameron objected to the sexual connotations, and he forced a new script to be written). According to the Growing Pains episode of E! True Hollywood Story, Cameron at one point went so far as to call the president of ABC on the phone and refer to executive producers Dan Guntzelman, Mike Sullivan and Steve Marshall as pornographers due to the content of some of the episodes. In 1991, after the show's sixth season, the three men quit the show as a result of Cameron's actions and statements.
In 2003, according to the article "The Rebirth of Kirk Cameron" in Christianity Today, Cameron "admits he made some mistakes common to new believers — such as distancing themselves so far from the world that they do no good for anyone ... In time, however, he realized his missteps. In 2000, he rejoined his former cast members for a Growing Pains reunion movie. He stood in front of his TV family and apologized for his behavior. 'I was a 17-year-old guy trying to walk with integrity, knowing that I was walking in the opposite direction from many other people. I didn't have the kind of maturity and graceful way of putting things perhaps that I would now,' he says. Cameron's fellow actors immediately embraced him."
At the beginning of the seventh season, a new character, homeless teen Luke Brower (played by a then-unknown Leonardo DiCaprio) was introduced in a last-ditch attempt to salvage ratings, but perhaps it was too late.

[Daradon]

Ok, I'm coining a new oxymoron now before anyone else does. It was in the articles about Kirk Cameron...

'religious awakening'



In all seriousness, how are these guys going to debate 'scientifically'. They would even have the education or understanding to get some of the arguments thrown at them. Is there going to be a moderator? A score? A winner? Because if it's a loose debate, I know EXACTLY how it's going to go.

'Uhmm but Kirk, that isn't a scientific point, that's on hypothesis, conjecture, and circumstantial evidence.'

'We can agree to disagree if you dont' feel that way,'

But that's not even a valid point, I mean erg ARGHHH!'

[ernie]

The new creation museum in Big Valley. Their mission is to prove the existence of God using science as well. I'm guessing these are the types of "arguments" Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort will use.

http://www.bvcsm.com/

[edn88]

Originally Posted by AnthonyCook

A prominent Christian best-selling author is asserting that he can prove the existence of God without using the Bible, and has challenged two atheists to a debate.

Comfort says that the evidence will “absolutely” confirm that there is a God, and he will not speak about his faith.
Cameron will use the event to also speak out against evolution, which he thinks is not credible and a major contributor to the growth in atheism.

"Evolution is unscientific. In reality, it is a blind faith that's preached with religious zeal as the gospel truth. I'm embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory,” said the former television star in a statement. “Atheism has become very popular in universities – where it's taught that we evolved from animals and that there are no moral absolutes. So we shouldn't be surprised when there are school shootings.”

He should be careful about what he proposes:

"I refuse to prove that I exist" says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith, I am nothing." "Oh," says man, "but the Babel Fish is a dead give-away, isn't it? It proves You exist, and so therefore You don't." "Oh, I hadn't thought of that." says God, who promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. - Douglas Adams

[Daradon]

This province seems to be going southern U.S. as fast as it possibly can, doesn't it.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by ernie

The new creation museum in Big Valley. Their mission is to prove the existence of God using science as well. I'm guessing these are the types of "arguments" Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort will use.

http://www.bvcsm.com/

They should come better armed than that. Creationism "evidence" is hardly scientific. Should make for a quick debate.

[CaramonLS]

The "Dinosaurs and Humans" display shows considerable evidence that not only did dinosaurs exist recently, but that humans existed with them. This evidence is fatal to the evolutionary dogma which has dinosaurs extinct at least 60 million years before humans evolved.

That would be quite the display to see.

[JimmytheT]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

That would be quite the display to see.

Didn't you know? The Flintstones was a real historical family and Hannah and Barbara were historians, not cartoonists.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

That would be quite the display to see.

The videos of some the displays are funny. Not sure if they are still linked on the site or not.