07-06-2023, 03:06 PM
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#3981
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
The Flames are only one season removed from Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk...
But I'm with you. Konecny would be a great addition to the team
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Technically, Tkachuk was playing on his off-wing, but he is a good enough player that he can be equally effective on either side.
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07-06-2023, 03:08 PM
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#3982
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Pickle Juice
Noah straight across seems fair for both parties?
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Is Philly looking for a prime aged d-man right now? Aren't they trying to move one out? Isn't Philly rebuilding? Their forward corps minus Konecny is pretty horrendous.
A third team involved? Toronto?
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07-06-2023, 03:11 PM
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#3983
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Technically, Tkachuk was playing on his off-wing, but he is a good enough player that he can be equally effective on either side.
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Having Tkachuk on his off wing was a major issue in the playoffs. It made matchups against that line much easier in the playoffs. You could hem in Gaudreau physically. Then, Tkachuk's ability to block the puck with his body was limited as he crashed the net from the right side. Tkachuk was also less able to pull off wrap around plays.
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07-06-2023, 03:22 PM
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#3984
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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07-06-2023, 03:36 PM
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#3985
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Anything over the 3rd round pick they paid to get him is a win IMO. Don’t overthink it, Craig.
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07-06-2023, 03:42 PM
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#3986
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Anything over the 3rd round pick they paid to get him is a win IMO. Don’t overthink it, Craig.
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I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best.
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take.
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07-06-2023, 03:45 PM
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#3987
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best.
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take.
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There's really no need to trade him unless they need the cap space. Wolf is free to move up and down because of his waiver exemption. So it's actually better to let Vladar sit on the bench as a backup and have Wolf play a semi full schedule in the A and then 10-15 games with the Flames when they can squeeze him oin.
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07-06-2023, 03:47 PM
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#3988
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best.
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take.
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Draft picks are beans, better to take a reclamation project or a player with some upside in return.
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07-06-2023, 03:58 PM
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#3989
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Picks are like money, you can use them to trade for players
It’s not that whether Wolf is ready but also can they trust Markstrom
Apparently they are not sure on both if they are not trading Vladar
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07-06-2023, 04:00 PM
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#3990
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best.
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take.
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I would take a third too, given what the market appears to be.
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07-06-2023, 04:20 PM
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#3991
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by theslymonkey
There's really no need to trade him unless they need the cap space. Wolf is free to move up and down because of his waiver exemption. So it's actually better to let Vladar sit on the bench as a backup and have Wolf play a semi full schedule in the A and then 10-15 games with the Flames when they can squeeze him oin.
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That’s a good point. I think Craig also mentioned he doesn’t want Wolf moving up and playing once a month. This way he can keep playing big minutes in AHL and stick his toe into the NHL gradually.
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07-06-2023, 04:40 PM
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#3992
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Do we even have enough cap space to activate Kylington and ice a team, or does someone absolutely need to be traded?
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07-06-2023, 04:44 PM
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#3993
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Franchise Player
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Was he not counted against the cap last year?
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07-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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#3994
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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As of right now with close to minimum contract roster fillers they would be fine to ice a team with Kylington.
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07-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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#3995
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by memphusk
Was he not counted against the cap last year?
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He was.
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07-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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#3996
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by butterfly
Do we even have enough cap space to activate Kylington and ice a team, or does someone absolutely need to be traded?
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Activating Kylington, sending Oesterle to the minors, bringing up Pelletier/Coronato/Duehr leaves the Flames with 711k in cap space and only Dennis Gilbert as a scratch. Waive Vladar and call up Wolf and the Flames get another few hundred K (1.05 mil).
It’s tight.
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07-06-2023, 04:47 PM
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#3997
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Franchise Player
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Still want Konecny on this team, and hopefully they can use Hanifin as the way to get him.
It makes too much sense.
Big hole at top line RW
The guy lives here in the off season
Philly is rebuilding
Hanifin wants out anyways
Konecny > Toffoli
Plus with Sharangovich, forward group starts to look a lot better IMO
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07-06-2023, 04:52 PM
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#3998
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Lifetime Suspension
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Getting in 20-30 starts while being a full time member of the team, getting in NHL reps, learning to be a pro, is just as important or even more important than getting in more starts in the AHL
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07-06-2023, 05:09 PM
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#3999
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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The Flames aren’t gonna get Konecny. The Flyers are in tear down mode and are gonna want futures for him. The Flames aren’t in a position to be trading futures
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07-06-2023, 05:09 PM
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#4000
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
Tkachuk and Gaudreau are both left shooting LWs.
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Ehhh seems kind of like arguing semantics. If a player can play RW and score 50 goals and 100 points, they’re a top line RW.
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