2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[saillias]

Toronto has nothing to offer and needs to get cap compliant. Our big trade asset that they would want wants to play in the USA. Of course Conroy doesn't want to trade with Treliving, it's not a fit. He wants a bailout so he doesn't have to buy out a guy or give up a high pick to get rid of somebody

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He was traded in July.

flames traded their 1st round pick in August to make salary room for Kadri.

That's what it was. My bad. Point stands that trades happen in the other month too. Conroy doesn't HAVE to make a move right now if he doesn't have to.

Not only that, but teams can get hit with injuries really quick. I am sure management has told Hanifin that a deal will happen when it happens, but the Flames are not in a rush to move him.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That's what it was. My bad.

You were close. It was July 25th so almost August.

[NewFan]

If Lindholm returns, I would like to keep Backlund too.
And try to trade Kadri for prospects or drafts.
Or trade Kadri @ Hanifin or Kadri @ Mangi to TOR or OTW or MTL for a cap dump with prospects.
Or for Nylander?

[Pickle Juice]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That's what it was. My bad. Point stands that trades happen in the other month too. Conroy doesn't HAVE to make a move right now if he doesn't have to.

Not only that, but teams can get hit with injuries really quick. I am sure management has told Hanifin that a deal will happen when it happens, but the Flames are not in a rush to move him.

Flames could just as easily get hit with injuries as well! I don’t know… It always seems like the flames think they’re smarter then the rest of the league when it comes to these types of choices and I cant really recall the last time something has hit for us. I would still prefer a one for one deal for these guys for players that are ready to break into the league but of course I’m not the GM and have zero clue about the offers.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by NewFan

If Lindholm returns, I would like to keep Backlund too.
And try to trade Kadri for prospects or drafts.
Or trade Kadri @ Hanifin or Kadri @ Mangi to TOR or OTW or MTL for a cap dump with prospects.
Or for Nylander?

I just don't see Kadri being moved, not without us giving up what we did to rid of Monahan. And that would be the worst things, paying double to rid Monahan and then Kadri. We are better off letting the cap rise, then justifying to other teams in a few years that Kadri's cap hit isn't as bad anymore and can still play middle 6 C. I think he is fine being here though. I don't see the harm in keeping him, especially since Backlund is the more tradeable asset. You're going to get more for Backlund with a year left than paying for Kadri to get off the team.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by saillias

Toronto has nothing to offer and needs to get cap compliant. Our big trade asset that they would want wants to play in the USA. Of course Conroy doesn't want to trade with Treliving, it's not a fit. He wants a bailout so he doesn't have to buy out a guy or give up a high pick to get rid of somebody

They don't want Hanifin at all, they do have interest in Zadorov and Tanev. Tanev especially as he is a RS D man and Tre loves him.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by NewFan

And try to trade Kadri for prospects or drafts.

Who has the cap space to take Kadri without giving cap back?

And more importantly, who has any desire to take Kadri's cap hit for the next 6 years?

We just saw Taylor Hall at $6M for 2-years moved for nothing.

Plus Kadri has a full NMC.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They don't want Hanifin at all, they do have interest in Zadorov and Tanev. Tanev especially as he is a RS D man and Tre loves him.

if healthy, Tanev would be a great pickup for the Leafs as they need his skillset.

Tanev for Liljegren or Timmins and their 3rd next year

hang onto Z for either extension or deadline deal

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They don't want Hanifin at all, they do have interest in Zadorov and Tanev. Tanev especially as he is a RS D man and Tre loves him.

I hope Conroy is considering a counter offer like this one:

Spoiler!

[ForeverFlameFan]

If you're wanting to move Tanev, I am willing to bet Vancouver would trade their 1st and Garland to get him. I am that serious. They would gladly overpay for the reunited pairing of Hughes / Tanev. Garland wouldn't be a bad top 6 option either.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

if healthy, Tanev would be a great pickup for the Leafs as they need his skillset.

Tanev for Liljegren or Timmins and their 3rd next year

hang onto Z for either extension or deadline deal

Timmins is pretty much useless, was traded for a 3rd line AHL center last year. Liljegren is approaching bust territory.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They don't want Hanifin at all, they do have interest in Zadorov and Tanev. Tanev especially as he is a RS D man and Tre loves him.

I'd be hoping for a 1st in next year's draft. They can send us bodie back if we get the 1st.

[Erick Estrada]

If the goal is to accumulate draft picks, I don't see an issue with Conny talking trade with Treliving. Treliving doesn't value draft picks as much as a lot of GM's as he's rarely had issues parting with high draft picks for players he likes.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I'd be hoping for a 1st in next year's draft. They can send us bodie back if we get the 1st.

You are just setting Conroy up for more hate.

This board has spent the past month talking about all the first round picks we need to get in exchange for our UFAs. The market just isn't there.

With regards to Tanev, I've spent about years arguing with Canuck fans that they were never ever going to get a 1st round pick for Tanev, he is a very good defensemen but he is injury prone. No contending or playoff team will give you a 1st round pick for him because they know the chance of him lasting for an entire playoff run is very low. If you can get a 2nd round pick for him, you should be happy.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by 868904

You are just setting Conroy up for more hate.

This board has spent the past month talking about all the first round picks we need to get in exchange for our UFAs. The market just isn't there.

With regards to Tanev, I've spent about years arguing with Canuck fans that they were never ever going to get a 1st round pick for Tanev, he is a very good defensemen but he is injury prone. No contending or playoff team will give you a 1st round pick for him because they know the chance of him lasting for an entire playoff run is very low. If you can get a 2nd round pick for him, you should be happy.

Lol. Yes It's all my fault. How dare I express my hopes for a 1st round pick in return for a top 4 heart and soul dman and a cap dump in return. Bodie makes like 2 mil less than Monahan. Brad paid a 1st to get rid of him without getting said warrior in return.

I think it's very reasonable.

[Wood]

Hanifin (with extension)
Kadri (nothing retained)

For

Nylander (With extension)
Brodie

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by 868904

You are just setting Conroy up for more hate.

This board has spent the past month talking about all the first round picks we need to get in exchange for our UFAs. The market just isn't there.

With regards to Tanev, I've spent about years arguing with Canuck fans that they were never ever going to get a 1st round pick for Tanev, he is a very good defensemen but he is injury prone. No contending or playoff team will give you a 1st round pick for him because they know the chance of him lasting for an entire playoff run is very low. If you can get a 2nd round pick for him, you should be happy.

This argument is an exercise in futility. You shouldn’t make such definitive statements because, truthfully, you have no idea what value one GM or another would place on Tanev, especially a cup contender at the deadline. There’s a long list of players that went for first round picks at the deadline that probably wouldn’t garner that kind of return at other points in the season.

Tanev certainly could have, and still might, fetch a 1st. I’ll acknowledge it’s unlikely at this point but I don’t think you can out of hand dismiss it.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by TOfan

This argument is an exercise in futility. You shouldn’t make such definitive statements because, truthfully, you have no idea what value one GM or another would place on Tanev, especially a cup contender at the deadline. There’s a long list of players that went for first round picks at the deadline that probably wouldn’t garner that kind of return at other points in the season.

Tanev certainly could have, and still might, fetch a 1st. I’ll acknowledge it’s unlikely at this point but I don’t think you can out of hand dismiss it.

I mentioned a 1st as the added cap dump that is brodie. Rumor has it TO has even considered buying him out.

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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I mentioned a 1st as the added cap dump that is brodie. Rumor has it TO has even considered buying him out.

Isn't Brodie actually no cap penalty on a buyout? I presume that's the main reason for the buyout discussion.

I don't see the Flames & Leafs as trade partners unless there's a 3rd team involved to make the cap work. Which probably makes it easier to just have both the Flames & Leafs address their needs with other teams instead anyway.