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Old 07-03-2023, 05:53 PM   #3621
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Honestly, trading with Toronto Nylander wouldn't even be my target. Taveres would be a good stopgap for calgary that would let Toronto out of cap hell. Give tre the cap savings in exchange for Backlund, but make him throw in topi neimela. Then trade lindholm with impunity for futures.

Unless taveres has taken a big step back that I don't know about.
Tavares is not waiving his NMC to go anywhere, but certainly not Calgary.
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Old 07-03-2023, 05:54 PM   #3622
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Markstrom for Gibson

Nvm he has 4 years left I thought he had 2

Oh wow. You’re right. 4 years left at 6.4 and told the team to stuff it

Those are some cojones

Carolina just signed Andersen and Raanta for a combined 4.9
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Old 07-03-2023, 05:54 PM   #3623
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Kadri for Nylander.

Do it, Wizard
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One thing about the 2 guys Tree signed to short term deals it establishes the pecking order. The players then have to earn the right to stay and earn more and are not getting more leeway than the guys in the core. This was a problem with the Huberdeau and Kadri signings, suddenly they were getting paid more than guys who gave their hearts to the team night in and night out. Understandable if this cause friction between players. It would have been better if we had sigbed Huberdeau and Kadri to short term deals so that anything they got beyond that they would have to earn it and more importantly it respects the pecking order of the guys who were already in the system.
Huberdeau and Kadri earned those contracts based on what the league was paying it has nothing to do with a pecking order. They just did it in other teams.

Just like Lindholm has earned his next contract and he's asking to be paid.

Bertuzzi signed in Toronto instead of multi year deals because he didn't get a large aav so he went to Toronto to light it up and sign elsewhere next season for long term and more money.

Domi is a throwaway singing who gets tossed around the league.

I would say we established an order this offseason and it's primarily based on Lindholm that's why Toffoli wanted out.
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Old 07-03-2023, 05:58 PM   #3625
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Kadri for Nylander.

Do it, Wizard
Apparently Kadri was one of the guys to reach out to Leafs first round pick.

While Huberdeau is trying to establish him self as a leader on the team reaching out to all the new guys Kadri is busy working with the Leafs it seems.

Strange stuff.
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Old 07-03-2023, 06:00 PM   #3626
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Apparently Kadri was one of the guys to reach out to Leafs first round pick.

While Huberdeau is trying to establish him self as a leader on the team reaching out to all the new guys Kadri is busy working with the Leafs it seems.

Strange stuff.
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I cannot believe people
a) don't want to sign Lindholm, because we shouldn't be signing more UFA-aged vets, but
b) want to trade assets for Nylander, for the privilege of having another $9M+ long term deal

Why on earth would we trade away assets for another winger? Signing Lindholm is a much better plan than trading for Nylander.

THe wonder-lust that some of you have for Nylander is absolutely baffling.
I would imagine acquiring Nylander would equal re-signing Lindholm too. That’s what we would want to do if we got Nylander.
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Huberdeau and Kadri earned those contracts based on what the league was paying it has nothing to do with a pecking order. They just did it in other teams.

Just like Lindholm has earned his next contract and he's asking to be paid.

Bertuzzi signed in Toronto instead of multi year deals because he didn't get a large aav so he went to Toronto to light it up and sign elsewhere next season for long term and more money.

Domi is a throwaway singing who gets tossed around the league.

I would say we established an order this offseason and it's primarily based on Lindholm that's why Toffoli wanted out.
They deserved to be paid sure. Too much commitment for players that didn't really move the needle. Would rather see what we had on a shorter term.
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Apparently Kadri was one of the guys to reach out to Leafs first round pick.

While Huberdeau is trying to establish him self as a leader on the team reaching out to all the new guys Kadri is busy working with the Leafs it seems.

Strange stuff.
Both from London, both played with the Knights.

If I was in the NHL and a kid from my hometown was drafted in the first round and we both took the same path to get to the NHL, I would have zero problem sending a text or calling him to say congrats. I don't think it has anything to do with Kadri being pro-Leaf or anti-Flame or anything.
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Maybe this was Kadri's master plan.


Decline trade to Calgary because you don't want to leave Toronto
Toronto trades you to Colorado
Sign with Calgary, knowing Treliving will be in Toronto in year.
Get him to trade for you so you' re back in Toronto.
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Old 07-03-2023, 06:14 PM   #3632
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I cannot believe people
a) don't want to sign Lindholm, because we shouldn't be signing more UFA-aged vets, but
b) want to trade assets for Nylander, for the privilege of having another $9M+ long term deal

Why on earth would we trade away assets for another winger? Signing Lindholm is a much better plan than trading for Nylander.

THe wonder-lust that some of you have for Nylander is absolutely baffling.
You’re forgetting the major factor here, Lindholm doesn’t want to sign long term here.. he’s been given the option for almost a month now and he hasn’t done so.
This is the same player who expressed lack of desire to stay with the Flames.

This is why people are talking about a Lindholm trade scenario.
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Old 07-03-2023, 06:14 PM   #3633
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They deserved to be paid sure. Too much commitment for players that didn't really move the needle. Would rather see what we had on a shorter term.
Kid was born in Strathroy, grew up a Leafs fan, and got drafted by the Leafs in the first round. Kadri basically has the same story, except born in London (~30 minutes from Strathroy). They’ve got a connection.

EDIT: Whoops - quoted the wrong post - but y’all get the picture.

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I don’t see what’s wrong with that. Played the majority of his career in Toronto.
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They deserved to be paid sure. Too much commitment for players that didn't really move the needle. Would rather see what we had on a shorter term.
Or go further back: Would rather have seen those dollars go to #13 and #19 instead of bridging them to free agency. We'd have 3-4 more years of them at $8/8.5 million each probably - it was rumoured both wanted longer contracts back then.

Kadri and Huby got term because the Flames #### themselves and felt they needed to add star power to the team and patch the big holes.

I'd really hate it if they added Nylander on another big contract. Without moving something bad the other way - like Marky or Kadri.

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Kadri for Nylander.

Do it, Wizard
Makes zero sense for Toronto, they need to save cap, not increase it.

Especially for an additional 5 years.
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Makes zero sense for Toronto, they need to save cap, not increase it.

Especially for an additional 5 years.
Brad wants snot in the lineup, Kadri epitomizes snot.
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I feel like Kadri would be a good fit with the Canes…
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Both from London, both played with the Knights.

If I was in the NHL and a kid from my hometown was drafted in the first round and we both took the same path to get to the NHL, I would have zero problem sending a text or calling him to say congrats. I don't think it has anything to do with Kadri being pro-Leaf or anti-Flame or anything.
I didn’t know all that.

I saw the quote and thought it was weird. That is all.

With context it's fine.
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Both from London, both played with the Knights.

If I was in the NHL and a kid from my hometown was drafted in the first round and we both took the same path to get to the NHL, I would have zero problem sending a text or calling him to say congrats. I don't think it has anything to do with Kadri being pro-Leaf or anti-Flame or anything.
Not just that, but Cowan also said that Kadri was his favourite player and who he tries to emulate.
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