2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to dealing Wolf for a premium forward, if they are signed. But the value has to be there.
I think Wolf is a tremendous prospect but there are still questions about whether it will translate to the NHL. I don't think he's the #1 goalie prospect (I would have him 3rd behind Askarov and Wallstedt) and certainly not the #1 prospect. He would probably be down in the 40s or 50s overall.

I just think goalies are so hard to project that if you can use the asset to bring in an elite forward, I wouldn't be opposed. I don't know how you work out the cap though.

Nylander is too old to trade for Wolf and picks, 23 or younger premium forward sure. Anything that doesn’t involve young players should be a no

[really?]

Originally Posted by Muta

Don't want Nylander, and don't want Wolf or a 1st involved. If that actually happened, I'd be considering taking a break from the Flames for a while. It would be so typical Calgary Flames to do something dumb like that.

By their actions the Flames believe you are an anomaly. In the short term they may be correct, but I used to be, and know quite a few, fans of the Washington football team. They used to be a model franchise, winning, build from within, establish a culture, but then they were overtaken by new ownership who decided the collection of shiny toys was the pathway to success. After 2 plus decades of banging their heads against the wall, they now face a largely empty stadium on Sundays, and an ever revolving cast of characters. Kinda sad, but I enjoy Sundays more now than I did then.

Maybe Flames fans are a different breed and they will continue to harbor hope that if they continue to do it again and again with vanilla results the wheel will eventually go round, but most come to realize that all they are left with is an aging roster of mercenaries with their sights set on the offseason.

I can understand a desire to keep Lindholm, but if the team continues to mortgage the future to appease a good, but not great player, then that player should feel the pressure to carry this team to the top echelon. Maybe he delivers, maybe he doesn’t, but if the Flames were to deal future assets in an effort to retain Lindholm, the fans should expect maximum effort AND results.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

There isn't a Goalie prospect in the last 10 years that carry the accolades, awards and frankly, stats, that Wolf has garnered in the last 5 years.

He is, in my opinion, by far the best goalie prospect in the NHL.

The only think that Askarov and Wallstedt have over Wolf is their draft capital. He's out played them at every level.

It isn't draft capital. It's physical attributes.

[Nelson]

I think the best option would be for Lindholm to get his agent to broker a deal where the Flames retain 50% and do a sign and trade to send Lindholm to Carolina. Carolina is loaded with picks and prospects, and they would be a sure fire favourite with Lindholm at centre.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

It isn't draft capital. It's physical attributes.

Yup. He is better than Phillips but same concerns with Wolf as Phillips. Although Wolf isn’t much smaller than Saros is he?

[howard_the_duck]

I’m not as bullish on Wolf being can’t miss. But the premise of trading him for a 27-year-old, soon to be very expensive winger is not appealing whatsoever in the Flames position.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I think the best option would be for Lindholm to get his agent to broker a deal where the Flames retain 50% and do a sign and trade to send Lindholm to Carolina. Carolina is loaded with picks and prospects, and they would be a sure fire favourite with Lindholm at centre.

I think the question for Carolina is if they want 20 million committed to Lindholm and Aho

[dustygoon]

Hold up. Since when does Treliving ask for futures? I smell something fishy!

[devo22]

I'd be absolutely game for a Huberdeau-Lindholm-Nylander line. That stupid Kadri contract means it'll probably never happen, but you do wonder ...

[Jiggy_12]

Wolf has the potential to have far more impact for this franchise for many years than Nylander does and its not even in the same ballpark.

We are talking about potentially trading a franchise backbone for the next 10 years for a winger already in his prime....(in a year we likely won't be contending anyways).

Would be complete and total garbage

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Probably. He usually is.

Mike Smith magically became injured and was placed in LTIR even though he was playing in the playoffs the season before. I don't see why the Leafs can't do the same with Murray. Of course Murray would have to agree to it. That's the wrinkle they are waiting for. If Murray gets bought out is anyone giving him a new contract even? Maybe Kyle Dubas but I doubt it. You would think it's for league minimum if he can even get one. He's owed 8 million in real dollars. So he's giving up a third of that in hopes of resurrecting his career.

He wasnt "magically" placed on IR. He had a hip issue all season but played through it. At seasons conclusion he decided he could not do it any longer, so it was his choice, not the team.

LTIR requires the team to provide medical proof to the league. Also it requires the player to agree with the assessment. Obviously the player can state they dont feel ready to return on date XX but thats a different scenario than actually getting on IR to begin with.

Maybe Murray actually has an ongoing and untreated/non-healed injury in which case you could be correct. But it has to be verifiable and legit.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by devo22

good luck moving Nylander for a good package without taking salary back. The Leafs painted themselves in this corner after signing Bertuzzi and Domi ... other teams know they need to shed salary. In today's NHL, you just don't move 7m from your books like that.

This exactly, why should we be helping Toronto out of their mess?

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1675886064869982215

Good list, young players with upside. Not aging vets!

[miraisoup]

If thats true I hope they get Comtois

[liamenator]

If you can acquire an offensive talent of Nylander's calibre and sign him to a reasonable long term deal, you move heaven and earth to do it.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yup. He is better than Phillips but same concerns with Wolf as Phillips. Although Wolf isn’t much smaller than Saros is he?

Yes he's the strong comparison, but the point is there aren't many goalies like Saros.
Wolf so far has proven every step of the way that he can perform at his size though, so it certainly warrants a chance to do it at the NHL.
I would just not view him as untouchable.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1675886064869982215

Good list, young players with upside. Not aging vets!

I like the names on the list. Worth a gamble. Still need to jettison Backlund to make cap space.

[Spurs]

I have no problem with dealing Wolf but not for William ####ing Nylander.

No interest in adding Nylander for anything, but especially not futures.

[Monahammer]

Cal Foote is one I would be super interested in. Not as sold on comtois as others.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Cal Foote is one I would be super interested in. Not as sold on comtois as others.

He was the one who stood out to me too.