2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Lanny_McDonald]

No prospect is a bridge too far. Prospects have potential to blow up in your face quickly so if you can get a proven player that fits in your long-term plan you make the move.

Having said that you have to weigh the value of the prospect and the value of the player you're getting back. Wolf looks to fill an immediate need on this team - a goaltender that can make a save and not just stop pucks that hit them. He's also cheap which helps in managing our cap. Wolf likely won't need a big boost in pay until we are able to dump Markstrom. So he is a perfect fit for the team right now and down the road. That is what makes him hard to deal.

On Nylander, he's a very talented player. Is he a guy that stirs the drink? I don't think so. He's at best number four in the Leafs' pecking order and isn't carrying the load he would if he was on another team. He also thinks quite highly of himself and what he is worth money wise. Not sure I want a guy like that. If he were to come in and take Kadri money, then maybe. But if he thinks he deserves Huberdeau money it is a non-starter. Not when you still have Lindholm holding the team hostage and you have to be concerned about fitting him in. I would be hesitant to make a deal before Lindholm makes up his mind.

Reading between some possible lines, maybe Calgary's interest in Nylander is a result of Lindholm giving the team his answer and the answer is "I'm moving on." Could be the Flames have stepped up the urgency here because they know they are about to lose another top player and want to replace him before that gets public. If that is the case then I can see why they would be pressing for Nylander. I could also see why they would be hesitant to make the deal suggested. I would be holding Toronto firm to make a deal because they are now in cap prison and the clock is now ticking to get a deal done. The Wizard has painted himself into a corner and now has to figure a way out.

[bluejays]

Terrible deal for the flames. Should be going for futures, not giving it up. F this.

[Saqe]

Sounds very delusional from Tree to think he can just ship Nylander somewhere without taking a similar contract back considering the prices teams are paying for cap space. Plus the extension Nylander wants at 9/10 million. Sorry, don't buy it.

[Bonded]

Nylander makes less sense if Lindholm wants out in my opinion. I view it more as a move to appease him.

[bluejays]

Nylander isn’t old but he’s not young enough for the Flames. They need young controllable assets. So annoyed hearing their approach. It should be a quick no once brad mentions all he wants. Hope Edwards kyboshes the #### outta this.

[kehatch]

If the Flames are pursuing Nylander, it isn't because Lindholm is moving on. There is no point in spending a bunch of money on wingers when you don't have any centers. It's more likely they would be pursuing Nylander as a way to convince Lindholm to sign.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Comedic genius exists in this thread

I think you spelled insufferable turd wrong.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Nylander isn’t old but he’s not young enough for the Flames. They need young controllable assets. So annoyed hearing their approach. It should be a quick no once brad mentions all he wants. Hope Edwards kyboshes the #### outta this.

Probably a reason Tre would try and make a futures trade with Calgary is he knows Edwards would be on board with it , rather the other way around.

[devo22]

good luck moving Nylander for a good package without taking salary back. The Leafs painted themselves in this corner after signing Bertuzzi and Domi ... other teams know they need to shed salary. In today's NHL, you just don't move 7m from your books like that.

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Why in the world would Conroy even be considering trading picks and prospects like Wolf for Nylander!? Calgary Flames just STOP! Please just stop pretending like your a team that doesn’t need a rebuild. I’m so tired of this! last year when Brad traded the 1st they got for Tkachuk so they could simply dump Monahan salary, I lost it. This team is so hard to cheer for because they do stupid moves like this. Please Rebuild! At the very least stop trading our draft picks and prospects so you can pretend you’re a playoff team.

I want to believe Conroy has learned from watching Tre and Feaster make these same mistakes over and over again. On the bright side, it seems Conroy did learn not to go shopping for free agents on July 1. But please just be patient and build through the draft. I’m getting to old to keep watching the same mistakes over and over again.

[savemedrzaius]

Sounds very strange that the Leafs would only want futures. They are in win-now mode.

If they are moving Nylander it's for an equally good dman. They are 2.4 million over the cap right now. Murray's caphit is 4.7. His buyout penalty for this upcoming season is 667,000. So they are now roughly 1.6 million under the cap. Send down Timmins and Lafferty and they have 3.6 million to sign Samsonov. That should be more than enough.

In no way are they trading Nylander for Wolf and picks. It just doesn't make sense for a team clearly making a hard run a the cup.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by devo22

good luck moving Nylander for a good package without taking salary back. The Leafs painted themselves in this corner after signing Bertuzzi and Domi ... other teams know they need to shed salary. In today's NHL, you just don't move 7m from your books like that.

Bruins say...."hold my beer"

[ForeverFlameFan]

At this rate I am looking for a Hanifin deal and telling Brad we will do Backlund (50%) for Nylander. That’s it. Backlund’s 50% retention and Hanifin out, assuming it’s a futures deal, keeps Calgary compliant with Nylander acquired.

[Reign of Fire]

How much cap will Huby, Weegar, Kadri, Nylander and Lindy take on this team?


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[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by devo22

good luck moving Nylander for a good package without taking salary back. The Leafs painted themselves in this corner after signing Bertuzzi and Domi ... other teams know they need to shed salary. In today's NHL, you just don't move 7m from your books like that.

If I had to guess Toronto will trade Murray to Blackhawks. If I’m Chicago I would say I want a 1st added. Unfortunately high profile markets always seem to weasel their way out of cap hell somehow. I don’t see this being any different. The sweetener, while I think should be a 1st, will probably be way less.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

How much cap will Huby, Weegar, Kadri, Nylander and Lindy take on this team?


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We'd be a top heavy team, except while the top would be super expensive - it wouldn't be elite.

Expensively mediocre forever.

[Muta]

Don't want Nylander, and don't want Wolf or a 1st involved. If that actually happened, I'd be considering taking a break from the Flames for a while. It would be so typical Calgary Flames to do something dumb like that.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Just keep our prospects and picks. No thanks to trading Wolf for Nylander

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

No prospect is a bridge too far. Prospects have potential to blow up in your face quickly so if you can get a proven player that fits in your long-term plan you make the move.

The Flames don't have a long-term plan.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Sounds very strange that the Leafs would only want futures. They are in win-now mode.

If they are moving Nylander it's for an equally good dman. They are 2.4 million over the cap right now. Murray's caphit is 4.7. His buyout penalty for this upcoming season is 667,000. So they are now roughly 1.6 million under the cap. Send down Timmins and Lafferty and they have 3.6 million to sign Samsonov. That should be more than enough.

In no way are they trading Nylander for Wolf and picks. It just doesn't make sense for a team clearly making a hard run a the cup.

Capfriendly has the TML over by $8m.


Here's an odd question - Why haven't they bought out Murray yet? What are they waiting for?