[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[Wood]

Originally Posted by erick estrada

is he really elite defensively? I hear this thrown around here at times but i don't see him on advanced stats lists of top shutdown centers. I think he's solid defensively but i don't think he's elite or in backlund territory defensively.

He was runner up for the Selke just 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/user/status/1533524790656520192

[midniteowl]

If it's a contract under $9M, I don't mind signing him to 8 years.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wood

He was runner up for the Selke just 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/user/status/1533524790656520192

I mean...he was ~1000 points shy, but I suppose he was technically still a runner-up.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by getoverit

I luv Lindy but I don’t want to pay $9.5m for 8 years. Rather collect strong assets and sign Backs for 2-3 yrs til we find replacement. Be nice to have cap space for a change this year

I would be surprised if Lindholm's extension comes in that high. The last update suggested they are currently negotiating in the range of $8.2 m.

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[Wood]

Originally Posted by locke

i mean...he was ~1000 points shy, but i suppose he was technically still a runner-up.

This year's votes for comparison. He's still technically top 10 best defensive forward in the league

If anything it just shows how amazing Bergeron is

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673493794036264960

[Coach]

I think all three of Backlund, Lindholm and Hanifin will have value as the season goes on and competing teams needs help. Having them at 1/2 price must be a bonus in a cap-strapped market. They already have good contracts. We see how much a market can fluctuate in only a few months.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Coach

I think all three of Backlund, Lindholm and Hanifin will have value as the season goes on and competing teams needs help. Having them at 1/2 price must be a bonus in a cap-strapped market. They already have good contracts. We see how much a market can fluctuate in only a few months.

Yep, our best bet now is to make a clear franchise direction on Hanifin, Lindholm and Backlund to sell before the trade deadline if we keep them into next season (and we should based on rumoured returns).But we HAVE to stick to it regardless of how the team is doing (not bloody likely). I already know how it is likely to go with the "anything that our team does is justified and the right course" crowd and Murray Edwards.

We will likely be in or just out of the playoffs early 2024 and then it will suddenly turn to "well, we have to go for it and you can't give up these kind of players right now, what message does it send to the team?!!"

And then we'll go for a playoff birth and either miss or get a first round exit and then we'll all sit here and discuss the possibility of Hanifin/Lindholm/Backlund re-signing, while their homes are on the market before the season is over, lol.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wood

This year's votes for comparison. He's still technically top 10 best defensive forward in the league

If anything it just shows how amazing Bergeron is

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673493794036264960

So he dropped from 2nd to 10th by ~850 votes when he had already been ~1000 votes shy and now people want to double his pay for 8 years?

Where do I sign up for this?

[iloveicedhockey]

Boring

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

Boring

Like.....what part? What are you referring to? It's a thread with 800+ posts.

[iloveicedhockey]

The post above. It's tiresome. Nothing against the thread or debating the worth of signing.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

The post above. It's tiresome. Nothing against the thread or debating the worth of signing.

and taking the time to post "borng" isn't productive at all

[iloveicedhockey]

I'm rarely productive but that wasn't really an issue at all here. This a forum so nothing is really productive. It's how people can't get an opinion across without being snarky, like they love the smell of their own farts. You can argue lindholm isn't a good signing without being condescending. Same the other way, you can argue he's great without dismissing those concerned as being negative nellies for no reason.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

I'm rarely productive but that wasn't really an issue at all here. This a forum so nothing is really productive. It's how people can't get an opinion across without being snarky, like they love the smell of their own farts. You can argue lindholm isn't a good signing without being condescending. Same the other way, you can argue he's great without dismissing those concerned as being negative nellies for no reason.

Cool.

What's your point? This is the internet. It's not new at this point, so what revelation are you trying to give us?

[iloveicedhockey]

I have nothing else but the knowledge that I've been in my cups this evening and am abnormally grumpy.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yep, our best bet now is to make a clear franchise direction on Hanifin, Lindholm and Backlund to sell before the trade deadline if we keep them into next season (and we should based on rumoured returns).But we HAVE to stick to it regardless of how the team is doing (not bloody likely). I already know how it is likely to go with the "anything that our team does is justified and the right course" crowd and Murray Edwards.

We will likely be in or just out of the playoffs early 2024 and then it will suddenly turn to "well, we have to go for it and you can't give up these kind of players right now, what message does it send to the team?!!"

And then we'll go for a playoff birth and either miss or get a first round exit and then we'll all sit here and discuss the possibility of Hanifin/Lindholm/Backlund re-signing, while their homes are on the market before the season is over, lol.

I doubt that. I was as optimistic as anyone about Johnny, because even he was really torn when he left the organization. I would be shocked, and I'm sure the majority of Flames fans would be as well, if anyone re-signed with the Flames after another mediocre season.



They'd really have to love Huska and their teammates to come back for more.

[saillias]

The Selke is voted on by journalists. A funny thing that happens - a guy gets 20 less points than his line mates and pundits conclude he is the best defensive player.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by Locke

Ugh Conroy...its your job to set the deadline.

Dont be like Tre and let the guy hum and haw and mumble his way to FA to walk out the door.

Time to either fish or cut bait.

Saying there is no deadline now doesn't mean there won't be one this offseason. He's been adamant about learning from the Gaudreau situation and not letting it happen again. He's just saying there isn't a deadline right now. The offseason just started and there are a lot of moving parts.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by saillias

The Selke is voted on by journalists. A funny thing that happens - a guy gets 20 less points than his line mates and pundits conclude he is the best defensive player.

Well, it only takes a pair of eyes to see he is.

[Fischy13]

Some of these takes are insufferable.

Lindy is as close to a Bergeron as you get today. As pointed out, his point totals over the last while. Center’s are the most important part of a team. If you guys haven’t noticed, they aren’t rebuilding. So your options are to sign him which sounds to be low 8’s which is outstanding value where a cap is going up that amount or more in the next 2 years. 8.2 will be the new 3-4 mil player when this expires in 9 years. He’s our top center and unless you can convince Murray to blow it up, you aren’t getting a better C on this team anytime soon. The other option is the trade, maybe you haven’t noticed, but the returns for players right now is absolute garbage. We couldn’t be selling at a worse time. Reilly Smith went for nothing. We are lucky Conny got what he did for Toffoli. Just because you think he will pull in a haul, look at the market, look at what Murray is likely forcing them to require in a return. You are going to like a trade a lot less than an 8 year contract for 8-9mil. This guy is a top center. You keep these because the Flames won’t be getting another for a long time.