A prominent Christian best-selling author is asserting that he can prove the existence of God without using the Bible, and has challenged two atheists to a debate.
Comfort says that the evidence will “absolutely” confirm that there is a God, and he will not speak about his faith. Cameron will use the event to also speak out against evolution, which he thinks is not credible and a major contributor to the growth in atheism.
"Evolution is unscientific. In reality, it is a blind faith that's preached with religious zeal as the gospel truth. I'm embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory,” said the former television star in a statement. “Atheism has become very popular in universities – where it's taught that we evolved from animals and that there are no moral absolutes. So we shouldn't be surprised when there are school shootings.”
Ya we were talking about that video a couple of weeks ago. Kirk Cameron has lost his nut. What a whack-o.
He lost it long time ago.
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What 19 year old male get a co-worker fired when he discovers whe was a playmate (Feb. 86)?
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Trying to discuss creationism is one thing, but to insinuate that things like the VT shooting happened because of atheism is evil. They cross the line from being humans with beliefs, to inhumans trying to forward their beliefs at any cost.
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I wonder who the two atheists will be. If it were up to me I would pick Richards Dawkins and Michael Shermer to be in my corner.
That would be an interesting fight... fanatic vs. fanatic. Unfortunately, it appears most religious fanatics throw out common sense when they argue, and would, as such, get demolished. Although, from an athiest point of view, I guess that's what you're looking for.
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I wonder who the two atheists will be. If it were up to me I would pick Richards Dawkins and Michael Shermer to be in my corner.
I'd go with Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris.
Although this debate is centered around two specific people:
The debate is in reaction to the “Blasphemy Challenge” that started late in 2006. The two creators of the movement encouraged all people to tape themselves with a short message that will “damn themselves to hell.” Participants must recite the line "I deny the Holy Spirit,” and then upload their video onto YouTube.
Comfort and Cameron felt that these two would be some of the most difficult people to convince that God does indeed exist, so contacted them about having a discussion.
The God Hypothesis is a proper scientific hypothesis whose truth or falsehood is hidden from us only by lack of evidence
We explain our existence by a combination of the anthropic principle and Darwin's principle of natural selection. That combination provides a complete and deeply satisfying explanation for everything that we see and know. Not only is the god hypothesis unnecessary. It is spectacularly unparsimonious. Not only do we need no God to explain the universe and life. God stands out in the universe as the most glaring of all superfluous sore thumbs. We cannot, of course, disprove God, just as we can't disprove Thor, fairies, leprechauns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But, like those other fantasies that we can't disprove, we can say that God is very very improbable.
The God Hypothesis is a proper scientific hypothesis whose truth or falsehood is hidden from us only by lack of evidence
We explain our existence by a combination of the anthropic principle and Darwin's principle of natural selection. That combination provides a complete and deeply satisfying explanation for everything that we see and know. Not only is the god hypothesis unnecessary. It is spectacularly unparsimonious. Not only do we need no God to explain the universe and life. God stands out in the universe as the most glaring of all superfluous sore thumbs. We cannot, of course, disprove God, just as we can't disprove Thor, fairies, leprechauns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But, like those other fantasies that we can't disprove, we can say that God is very very improbable.
Not viewing this yet, I look forward to their non-faith based, scientific proof of god. Likely they will resort to the tired old irreducible complexity argument, which is not scientific, or the, you cannot disprove god's existence, which of course is not proof of god's existence.
Again they believe god exists in absolute a priori, which is what religion is all about; Believing on faith, without evidentiary requirements.
Personally I think the debate is flawed because a common definition of 'God' is lacking...if you define God as a big ornery Judeo-Christian MAN with a beard, who is conscious and moral in a very human way...you will have a different debate than if you define God as nature itself (i.e. the sum of all matter+energy or something like that) with a consciousness very different than anything a human could grasp...
Define your terms then have a debate...
FWIW I would rather believe in a flying spaghetti monster with her glorious meatballs than the Judeo Christian God as it is commonly believed today...
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Trying to discuss creationism is one thing, but to insinuate that things like the VT shooting happened because of atheism is evil. They cross the line from being humans with beliefs, to inhumans trying to forward their beliefs at any cost.
A much more polite version of the Phelps clan's mission really.
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Evangelist and Kirk Cameron to scientifically 'prove' god's existence
