07-01-2023, 01:15 PM
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The audio is just terrible. Can't hear any questions.
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07-01-2023, 01:15 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Finally the truth comes out. Conny just admitted we missed out on trade offers at the draft because he didn’t know there was a ringer volume setting on the phone at the draft table. Typical flames.
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07-01-2023, 01:15 PM
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#23
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I'm thrilled with the lack of activity. We need to inject more youth and thats whats going to happen. This has been a great day in that regard.
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07-01-2023, 01:16 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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An interesting bit about saying he is prepared to manage three goalies if he needs. Glad he isn't showing desperation trying to trade Vladar.
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07-01-2023, 01:17 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Conroy announcing he is not going to do anything so we can all go home
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07-01-2023, 01:18 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
I'm thrilled with the lack of activity. We need to inject more youth and thats whats going to happen. This has been a great day in that regard.
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Definitely, free agency is the worst spot to spend salary cap.
...and it's one of the key reasons why this team is cap-strapped and not successful. Free Agency is not a route to success.
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07-01-2023, 01:19 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
An interesting bit about saying he is prepared to manage three goalies if he needs. Glad he isn't showing desperation trying to trade Vladar.
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Glad he isn't showing desperation to do anything! Patience is a virtue.
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07-01-2023, 01:19 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Definitely, free agency is the worst spot to spend salary cap.
...and it's one of the key reasons why this team is cap-strapped and not successful. Free Agency is not a route to success.
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Not today anyway, nobody good this year for the money
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07-01-2023, 01:19 PM
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GOAT!
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God, I love listening to Conny as GM. I mean I loved listening to him as a player and AGM too... but this guy as GM is just really refreshing.
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07-01-2023, 01:21 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Finally the truth comes out. Conny just admitted we missed out on trade offers at the draft because he didn’t know there was a ringer volume setting on the phone at the draft table. Typical flames.
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ok....not a great start.
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07-01-2023, 01:22 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
That's the most annoying part for me
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The sound engineer thought they had the day off for Canada Day.
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07-01-2023, 01:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Finally the truth comes out. Conny just admitted we missed out on trade offers at the draft because he didn’t know there was a ringer volume setting on the phone at the draft table. Typical flames.
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I knew when I heard that, that I would find someone on CP over reacting.
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07-01-2023, 01:25 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Not today anyway, nobody good this year
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I think in general it's just a bad avenue for doing anything outside of signing very cheap, value-focused deals on players who are choosing your team because they want to win. So I'm quite happy to see Connie sit this out entirely...although I do wish he'd do something impactful or direction setting, so hopefully that happens sometime this summer.
The moment you start looking at players who are hitting free agency looking to acquire a big bag, the value just crumbles. Even when they don't go terrible, they don't go great.
Blake Coleman - fine player, but $4.9M is "meh" value at best, and there's still 4 !@#$ing years on it.
Jacob Markstrom - average the 3 seasons out, and we'd have had equal or better goaltending having just signed random bargain goaltenders to short term deals (like Carolina does). If you can't draft and develop a star goalie yourself, you're best to just "moneyball" the position.
James Neal - absolutely destructive.
Michael Frolik - provided fine value until towards the end, and having that inflated salary on the books caused us structural salary cap damage, preventing us from signing Tkachuk to a 4, 5, or 6 year deal.
Troy Brouwer - destructive
Chris Tanev may be the only one we can outright say has been good value, but the injuries are catching up and he still has 1 year at $4.5M on it.
Free Agent contracts in these ranges are for impatient franchises who are knowingly buying bad years in hopes of finding short term success.
Last edited by ComixZone; 07-01-2023 at 01:27 PM.
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07-01-2023, 01:26 PM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Announcing his retirement from management. He can't handle the stress
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07-01-2023, 01:27 PM
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#36
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First Line Centre
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I would much rather this Conroy FA than most of Treliving’s FAs.
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07-01-2023, 01:28 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I think in general it's just a bad avenue for doing anything outside of signing very cheap, value-focused deals on players who are choosing your team because they want to win. So I'm quite happy to see Connie sit this out entirely...although I do wish he'd do something impactful or direction setting, so hopefully that happens sometime this summer.
The moment you start looking at players who are hitting free agency looking to acquire a big bag, the value just crumbles. Even when they don't go terrible, they don't go great.
Blake Coleman - fine player, but $4.9M is "meh" value at best, and there's still 4 !@#$ing years on it.
Jacob Markstrom - average the 3 seasons out, and we'd have had equal or better goaltending having just signed random bargain goaltenders to short term deals (like Carolina does). If you can't draft and develop a star goalie yourself, you're best to just "moneyball" the position.
James Neal - absolutely destructive.
Michael Frolik - provided fine value until towards the end, and having that inflated salary on the books caused us structural salary cap damage, preventing us from signing Tkachuk to a 4, 5, or 6 year deal.
Troy Brouwer - destructive
Chris Tanev may be the only one we can outright say has been good value, but the injuries are catching up and he still has 1 year at $4.5M on it.
Free Agent contracts in these ranges are for impatient franchises who are knowingly buying bad years in hopes of finding short term success.
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Yes, you rarely do well on July 1st. Although it seems like based on the contracts today GM’s are figuring out that you do not offer term. Flames also signed Mason Raymond as a UFA, three year deal.
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07-01-2023, 01:32 PM
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#38
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I knew when I heard that, that I would find someone on CP over reacting.
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07-01-2023, 01:35 PM
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#39
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In the Sin Bin
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For the record I was statistically calling the Flames idiots not other posters
I apologize for how it came off
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07-01-2023, 01:37 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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There is definitely a time to play the UFA market and time to stay out. As boring as it is, because who doesn't like news, it's wise to stay out of it this year.
I wouldn't mind later in the off season, seeing if there are any low-risk projects still laying around that you can buy low and potentially sell high on later, but none of these free agents are going to move the needle much if at all, and almost all will get over paid.
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