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Old 06-29-2023, 01:54 PM   #2821
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Old 06-29-2023, 01:56 PM   #2822
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Yeah. Only way to get 23 picks would have been to sell last deadline and I think we all knew that wasn’t happening lol
It always easiest to get picks at the deadline, which is what we need.

Based on this draft, it seems the Flames are smart enough to realize the value of these players at the TDL vs. now, and hold on until prices go up.

Imagine the value of what we have?

If you need a great 2-way centre that can win draws and score for a playoff team. We have 2 of the best!

What about if you need a d-man? We've got three! A big bruiser? then take Z. A rock solid stay-at-home? Tanev. A top 2/3 that can skate? Hanifin.

At the TDL, if we can retain that feels like 3 x 1sts, a couple of 2nds, a couple of good 20 year olds, and a handful of other later round picks.
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Old 06-29-2023, 01:56 PM   #2823
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So what would you have done differently the last few days that would have made you happy?

Complaining is one thing but on serious note what would you have done?
To answer your question, I would have gone for a higher upside pick in the first round. I don't get good vibes from what I'm seeing and hearing about the guy they picked when there was so much talent available in a very good draft class. Seems like a low risk, low reward kind of pick for a player who is available all the time. But the Flames should never have been drafting 16th overall in the first place, not with how mediocre the franchise has been for so very long. That's the point I'm making.

The whole ethos of the Calgary Flames is what's broken here, and I genuinely do not understand what they're trying so desperately to cling to, from a purely competitive standpoint. The only conclusion I'm left to make is that it's not about being competitive, it's about Edwards wanting the best chance to line his own pockets with 2 or 3 extra home games every year.
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Old 06-29-2023, 01:57 PM   #2824
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Sometimes the information is good, sometimes the information is ####.

I am grateful that I have relationships with people around the league and I am a fan first of the best hockey club on the planet - The Calgary Flames.

However, those who think I got no information are either to lazy to check for receipts or think I blow smoke which is fine too. I don't care what people think. If you want 100% Facts, you have to wait for SureLoss and that group that post everything that crosses the goal line, It's not under appreciated.

I thank those that appreciate my contributions to this forum/site. I appreciate the very kind DM's and the not so nice ones I get as well.

I was going to provide you with something before I head home back to Canada but instead...I think people should appreciate everyone's contributions whether you believe, trust or agree to disagree around here.



Enjoy your long week, play safe.
We should ban negative responses to Sec. This is a rumors and speculation thread and I personally love the info that Sec has provided. Not everything is going to come to fruition, things change quickly, so lets just appreciate that we get any info at all
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Old 06-29-2023, 01:58 PM   #2825
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Yeah, I don't see the value in pissing on cornflakes either.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:03 PM   #2826
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Conroy just dropped:

"For the Calgary Flames its about right now" when talking about picks being pushed out to next year.

The marching orders do appear to remain intact. Wonderful.
That is one way to interpret that.
The other way is that they wanted picks now, to start the process as soon as possible.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:05 PM   #2827
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That is one way to interpret that.
The other way is that they wanted picks now, to start the process as soon as possible.
Or young players about to pop

This team is still too good to tear down IMO

Just no more retirement contracts which seems like a massive shift
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:07 PM   #2828
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To answer your question, I would have gone for a higher upside pick in the first round. I don't get good vibes from what I'm seeing and hearing about the guy they picked when there was so much talent available in a very good draft class. Seems like a low risk, low reward kind of pick for a player who is available all the time. But the Flames should never have been drafting 16th overall in the first place, not with how mediocre the franchise has been for so very long. That's the point I'm making.

The whole ethos of the Calgary Flames is what's broken here, and I genuinely do not understand what they're trying so desperately to cling to, from a purely competitive standpoint. The only conclusion I'm left to make is that it's not about being competitive, it's about Edwards wanting the best chance to line his own pockets with 2 or 3 extra home games every year.
But who? Just saying "someone better" is useless.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:08 PM   #2829
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If people don't trust what folks like Sec have to say then put him on ignore instead of whining about it so you don't ruin it for the rest of us.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:09 PM   #2830
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To answer your question, I would have gone for a higher upside pick in the first round. I don't get good vibes from what I'm seeing and hearing about the guy they picked when there was so much talent available in a very good draft class. Seems like a low risk, low reward kind of pick for a player who is available all the time. But the Flames should never have been drafting 16th overall in the first place, not with how mediocre the franchise has been for so very long. That's the point I'm making.

The whole ethos of the Calgary Flames is what's broken here, and I genuinely do not understand what they're trying so desperately to cling to, from a purely competitive standpoint. The only conclusion I'm left to make is that it's not about being competitive, it's about Edwards wanting the best chance to line his own pockets with 2 or 3 extra home games every year.
How many games did you watch live? What did you see that you don't like?
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:10 PM   #2831
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To answer your question, I would have gone for a higher upside pick in the first round. I don't get good vibes from what I'm seeing and hearing about the guy they picked when there was so much talent available in a very good draft class. Seems like a low risk, low reward kind of pick for a player who is available all the time. But the Flames should never have been drafting 16th overall in the first place, not with how mediocre the franchise has been for so very long. That's the point I'm making.

The whole ethos of the Calgary Flames is what's broken here, and I genuinely do not understand what they're trying so desperately to cling to, from a purely competitive standpoint. The only conclusion I'm left to make is that it's not about being competitive, it's about Edwards wanting the best chance to line his own pockets with 2 or 3 extra home games every year.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:14 PM   #2832
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To answer your question, I would have gone for a higher upside pick in the first round. I don't get good vibes from what I'm seeing and hearing about the guy they picked when there was so much talent available in a very good draft class. Seems like a low risk, low reward kind of pick for a player who is available all the time. But the Flames should never have been drafting 16th overall in the first place, not with how mediocre the franchise has been for so very long. That's the point I'm making.

The whole ethos of the Calgary Flames is what's broken here, and I genuinely do not understand what they're trying so desperately to cling to, from a purely competitive standpoint. The only conclusion I'm left to make is that it's not about being competitive, it's about Edwards wanting the best chance to line his own pockets with 2 or 3 extra home games every year.

That's fair, sounds like Conroy did try get something higher but with low offers, liked the player and it seems we drafted well off the pick. I guess we really don't know what was being offered.

In hindsight maybe this is why they are holding onto Backlund and Lindholm because we can't afford to engage in low returns. But he has to deal with what the market gives him. I get your disappointment especially after the season we have had, Conroy was left with a mess to clean up let's give him a little bit of benefit and time to formulate some real changes. It is understandable but at the same time it seems like we are not giving him very much rope.
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To answer your question, I would have gone for a higher upside pick in the first round. I don't get good vibes from what I'm seeing and hearing about the guy they picked when there was so much talent available in a very good draft class. Seems like a low risk, low reward kind of pick for a player who is available all the time. But the Flames should never have been drafting 16th overall in the first place, not with how mediocre the franchise has been for so very long. That's the point I'm making.

The whole ethos of the Calgary Flames is what's broken here, and I genuinely do not understand what they're trying so desperately to cling to, from a purely competitive standpoint. The only conclusion I'm left to make is that it's not about being competitive, it's about Edwards wanting the best chance to line his own pockets with 2 or 3 extra home games every year.
Well their 2nd rounder was the best dman in the draft according to the director of central scouting so cheer up
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:17 PM   #2834
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If people don't trust what folks like Sec have to say then put him on ignore instead of whining about it so you don't ruin it for the rest of us.
I’m pretty sure Sec has confirmed his sources with mods anyways. If he was consistently spreading BS he’d probably would’ve been banned by now
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My question is, who’s unhinged enough to send someone negative personal messages on a message board? Especially when all Sec is doing is relaying information. Nuts
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I’m pretty sure Sec has confirmed his sources with mods anyways. If he was consistently spreading BS he’d probably would’ve been banned by now
They have not been requested to be provided and I wouldn't provide it. I ain't the one making money...


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Sec had that one post where he called the Sutter firing, Conroy as GM, Treliving leaving, but it was all so far in advance that he really couldn’t have had insight at all. Then he was wrong about the coaches. But he’s seemed to have some pretty insightful posts as to the Flames mindset and strategy.
Is this post supposed to have a point?
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:25 PM   #2838
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I’m pretty sure Sec has confirmed his sources with mods anyways. If he was consistently spreading BS he’d probably would’ve been banned by now


He also has been very supportive of the team and the fans. His insights have helped avoid posters going off the rails with speculation and off the chart assumptions and rumors. He has brought some fun amd enjoyment. I appreciate his posts.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:25 PM   #2839
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Yeah even if he is full of #### who cares...it's a rumors thread
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Don’t mind the haters Sec. Drop the goods.
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