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Old 06-29-2023, 11:25 AM   #81
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What is being said at 1:37:40?

1:37:59?

1:38:24?
Okay, yes there he speaks about Gary Roberts. Thought you meant at 00:01:37.

Aydar says he took part in Roberts' camp. I didn't get that far yet. Was going to listen to most of it in the evening.

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What is being said at 1:37:40?

1:37:59?

1:38:24?
ahhhh yes he absolutely says Gary Roberts at the 1 hour 37 minute mark
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:26 AM   #83
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Can't wait for this kid to start levelling opponents "Suni Side Up!"
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:27 AM   #84
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Okay, yes there he speaks about Gary Roberts. Thought you meant at 00:01:37.
BOOM!!!!

I know more Russian than you!! But I obviously need to brush up on how to denote time stamps. .

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Beauty pick!

Upside's update:
(with Sandman profile quote)

https://twitter.com/user/status/1674452887861329926
More from Upside's E-Mac on why he loved this young gun - this was pre-draft commentary on differences between his and Bob McKenzie's rankings:

(well, we got him in the 3rd!)

"#26 (Bob – 66) – Aidar Suniev - I get that Suniev could be 2nd round but 3rd – no way. Suniev just has too many high-end qualities to not be at least 2nd round if not late 1st – Results, shot, one-timer, finish, creativity, passing, puck protection, forecheck and compete level. Critics point to his skating as his major flaw. While I agree that his acceleration could use some work, his top speed is satisfactory enough for a guy that is 6’2, 192 to succeed in the NHL."
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Conroy says he tried to trade up to the end of the 2nd round to select Suniev but lucky that he still fell to them at 80.
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Conroy tried to trade up to the last pick in the second round for Suniev.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:14 PM   #88
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Conroy says he tried to trade up to the end of the 2nd round to select Suniev but lucky that he still fell to them at 80.
Just goes to show, you never know how things will turn out. We might have given up an asset to pick him at 64 but instead we still get him 16 picks later. Glad it worked out, now I just hope the players pans out.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:14 PM   #89
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Goal Song

His last name is actually pronounced Soon-iev, but that's a good song.
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Old 06-29-2023, 02:48 PM   #91
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"Critics point to his skating as his major flaw. While I agree that his acceleration could use some work, his top speed is satisfactory enough for a guy that is 6’2, 192 to succeed in the NHL."
Good thing we have an amazing skating coach in Danielle Fujita!
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WTF?

How is this kid not a first round talent? The skills are off the chart.

His skating looks fine. Shot looks elite. Passing and puck handling look great.

And he's big too?
He looks like Iggy the way scores those goals with his one timers and quick releases. Some good hands, vision in close and those quick passes in tight spaces.

Looks like a natural goal scorer.
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Wouldn't be surprised if the Flames were high on Bradley Nadeau, too, but so were the Canes.
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I have a feeling this might be our sneakiest pick of the draft. Underlying numbers look good.

Excited to see where he goes.
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More from Upside's E-Mac on why he loved this young gun - this was pre-draft commentary on differences between his and Bob McKenzie's rankings:

(well, we got him in the 3rd!)

"#26 (Bob – 66) – Aidar Suniev - I get that Suniev could be 2nd round but 3rd – no way. Suniev just has too many high-end qualities to not be at least 2nd round if not late 1st – Results, shot, one-timer, finish, creativity, passing, puck protection, forecheck and compete level. Critics point to his skating as his major flaw. While I agree that his acceleration could use some work, his top speed is satisfactory enough for a guy that is 6’2, 192 to succeed in the NHL."
Watching his skating on highlights I agree with the assessment. To me his inefficiencies appear to be more about his default posture, and raw power, both feed into his acceleration.

Otherwise his mechanics, quickness, and edge-work look excellent. As he grows into his body and gets man strength the power in his stride should take care of itself.

In my opinion his skating reminds me of Patrick Marleau’s at the same age. Not elite turnover, but excellent mechanics that can leverage more power as he builds leg strength.

But see for yourself.

https://www.facebook.com/TheWHL/vide...0500637031114/





On the High Performance Hockey Podcast, Sharks strength & conditioning coach Mike Potenza discussed how Patrick also didn’t have great stride turnover by the force into the ice the raw power his legs were capable of generating is what gave him elite speed.

The question is if Aydar can grow/build similar raw power like Patrick, then he could be a hell of a pick.
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Good thing we have an amazing skating coach in Danielle Fujita!
Not to dismiss this, but what Flame has improved their skating under her? I’ve seen plenty of NHLers improve their skating under coaching (Point for example), but it seems like some take a few sessions but don’t follow up with the training enough to actually effect a change. Tkachuk took summer lessons from the same coach as Point a few years ago. Nothing changed.
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This may be a little sacrilegious but based solely on watching the highlights, Suniev reminds me a little bit of the last #19 we had, minus the swag and #### disturbing.
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Not to dismiss this, but what Flame has improved their skating under her? I’ve seen plenty of NHLers improve their skating under coaching (Point for example), but it seems like some take a few sessions but don’t follow up with the training enough to actually effect a change. Tkachuk took summer lessons from the same coach as Point a few years ago. Nothing changed.
Not to dismiss you, but this "working on skating" thing is total horsecrap. If you are at the age of getting drafted, you cannot "work on your skating" unless you get hip surgery. It is locked in at that point. I'd say he needs to go to Belfry and work with what he is, that's the coach I want him with.

Tkachuk is a brutal skater but it doesn't matter.

Its like saying he needs to work on his height.
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Not to dismiss you, but this "working on skating" thing is total horsecrap. If you are at the age of getting drafted, you cannot "work on your skating" unless you get hip surgery. It is locked in at that point. I'd say he needs to go to Belfry and work with what he is, that's the coach I want him with.

Tkachuk is a brutal skater but it doesn't matter.

Its like saying he needs to work on his height.
I wouldn’t say that. Knock on Bo Horvat when he was drafted was skating, he developed into a very powerful skater.

It depends on the player, you can improve and adding strength to your legs is just one way.

From the videos of Suniev, I don’t think skating is going to be that big an issue. He looks very fluid out there and I’m guessing it’s going to be about strengthening his legs.
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