06-29-2023, 09:14 AM
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#301
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Saqe
The point is it's pretty ridiculous to call Duclair a dump.
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I don’t think anyone is calling him a cap dump?
He just can’t be the “main piece” in a Hanifin trade when the goal is to get younger.
Trading Hanifin for a worse, older player as the big piece coming back would be terribly disapointing.
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06-29-2023, 09:14 AM
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#302
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
I should have made the sarcasm clearer I guess  |
Oops. It's early lol 
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06-29-2023, 09:17 AM
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#303
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Lifetime Suspension
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He should be viewed as a dump in any deal with Calgary because he should not have any value to us.
Doesn’t mean Florida should feel that way but for me whatever value Florida puts on Duclair I would take that over him. So if they think he is worth a 3rd I would say send me the 3rd instead of Duclair.
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06-29-2023, 09:19 AM
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#304
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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You can take Duclair as part of a package and see if it works out with Huberdeau. If not, you can always ship him out at the trade deadline this year to a contender for at least a 3rd round pick, if not more depending on how he's playing.
The point is, he's still an asset, even if you don't particularly like the player.
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06-29-2023, 09:22 AM
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#305
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bax
I don’t think anyone is calling him a cap dump?
He just can’t be the “main piece” in a Hanifin trade when the goal is to get younger.
Trading Hanifin for a worse, older player as the big piece coming back would be terribly disapointing.
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Duclair is technically older than Hanifin, but I don't think that 16 months is that much of a difference and a consideration in the trade talks. I agree he's less valuable in a trade mostly due to injury history, and the Senators not qualifying him before he signed with Florida.
As for the player himself he had 11 points in the playoffs this year. He had 58 points in 74 games last year. In fact if we project his PPG in the last 4 years to an 82 game season it gives us a 56pt player. Would I like more in return, sure, but Duclair is a great piece, he has chemistry with Huberdeau, and hopefully he can stay healthy.
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06-29-2023, 09:33 AM
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#306
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Originally Posted by Spurs
He should be viewed as a dump in any deal with Calgary because he should not have any value to us.
Doesn’t mean Florida should feel that way but for me whatever value Florida puts on Duclair I would take that over him. So if they think he is worth a 3rd I would say send me the 3rd instead of Duclair.
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Why wouldn’t he have any value to us? He’s a good player.
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06-29-2023, 10:08 AM
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#307
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Why wouldn’t he have any value to us? He’s a good player.
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Didn’t you know? Anyone over 25 is garbage and has no value.
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06-29-2023, 10:08 AM
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#308
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-29-2023, 10:09 AM
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#309
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I'd trade Hanifin to Pittsburgh.
...for Brayden Yager.
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06-29-2023, 10:11 AM
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#310
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Okotoks
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I like the sound of "one of many suitors" a lot.
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06-29-2023, 10:12 AM
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#311
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Why wouldn’t he have any value to us? He’s a good player.
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Because we aren’t competing for anything in the next few years and Duclair is an inconsistent player that isn’t worth the risk for a team in our position.
If he were to come next season as a FA on a reasonable deal, sure or included without taking value from the deal sure. But as I said if it was for a 3rd I take the puck every day of the week.
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06-29-2023, 10:16 AM
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#312
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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All of Pittsburgh’s decent players have NTCs. So hard to see a roster playing coming back.
Penguins 2024 1st
Owen Pickering
Maybe Rutta for cap balancing
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06-29-2023, 10:18 AM
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#313
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Hmm. I wonder if a Hanifin deal gets done this afternoon.
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06-29-2023, 10:22 AM
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#314
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
Because we aren’t competing for anything in the next few years and Duclair is an inconsistent player that isn’t worth the risk for a team in our position.
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So tell us about this time machine you have that you can say we are not competing in the next few years.
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06-29-2023, 10:29 AM
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#315
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I wonder about stuff like this. (edit: the following is a hypothetical scenario) A team with "not a lot of assets" feels like they may not be able to compete with other offers, so they "leak" to a guy on twitter that they want Hanifin on their top pair with Letang.
Is that not a form of tampering? Aren't they Wouldn't that be essentially trying to get Hanifin to do what he can to get traded there?
Last edited by FanIn80; 06-29-2023 at 10:38 AM.
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06-29-2023, 10:33 AM
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#316
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
I wonder about stuff like this. A team with "not a lot of assets" feels like they may not be able to compete with other offers, so they "leak" to a guy on twitter that they want Hanifin on their top pair with Letang.
Is that not a form of tampering? Aren't they essentially trying to get Hanifin to do what he can to get traded there?
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I don't see that. I just see a guy reporting what he is hearing. Unless the Penguins are directly speaking with Hanifin or his agent I don't see how that would be tampering.
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06-29-2023, 10:34 AM
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#317
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
So tell us about this time machine you have that you can say we are not competing in the next few years.
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Don’t need a time machine to see the roster and prospects we have.
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06-29-2023, 10:35 AM
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#318
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
I wonder about stuff like this. A team with "not a lot of assets" feels like they may not be able to compete with other offers, so they "leak" to a guy on twitter that they want Hanifin on their top pair with Letang.
Is that not a form of tampering? Aren't they essentially trying to get Hanifin to do what he can to get traded there?
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What proof is there they leaked it?
Statements like this are made by reporters all the time.
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06-29-2023, 10:41 AM
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#319
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Spurs
What proof is there they leaked it?
Statements like this are made by reporters all the time.
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I was using that tweet as a hypothetical scenario. I'm not suggesting they did this... I'm not suggesting they didn't do it either... I'm just starting a conversation about something that I've often thought about, and the tweet was just the catalyst to my question.
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06-29-2023, 10:42 AM
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#320
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Brayden Yegor be good start from Pens as package for Hanifin
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