Well we know it flexes inward as depth increases, they stated that, and it makes sense with physics. So it was already flexing inward, so could only fail inward. If it didn't fail, then their may be an outwardly bent frame which would indicate it was the source of failure.
I was curious how they retrieved the debris. Some of those pieces are big and bulky. I guess I just didn't think the machines they were using were that big. And how to bring us what one can only imagine are very fragile remains? I guess I assumed the submersibles were small and unable to carry much. Obviously I'm wrong
They had another sub down there. At least one, anyway. I'm not sure if it dragged it up, or clipped an inflatable airbag on it. Airbag seems the safest for the other sub.
I was curious how they retrieved the debris. Some of those pieces are big and bulky. I guess I just didn't think the machines they were using were that big. And how to bring us what one can only imagine are very fragile remains? I guess I assumed the submersibles were small and unable to carry much. Obviously I'm wrong
I guess it goes to show that contrary to the joke engineering of Ocean Gate, submersible tech in the rest of the industry is actually quite a mature technology and science.
So they actually found human remains? I am guessing it just a few nuggets or noodles of flesh. Still, I was under the impression that any human remains would have been completely destroyed from the extreme heat and the vessel imploding at the speed of sound.
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They had another sub down there. At least one, anyway. I'm not sure if it dragged it up, or clipped an inflatable airbag on it. Airbag seems the safest for the other sub.
Yeah, I assumed as much. The airbag makes sense and I didn't think of that. I guess I just meant that human remains, fragments, etc, would be very delicate. How they brought them up with dignity is what I was thinking but an airbag would make the most sense.
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I guess it goes to show that contrary to the joke engineering of Ocean Gate, submersible tech in the rest of the industry is actually quite a mature technology and science.
I just read a report from last year that spoke specifically to using carbon fibre on pressure vessels. The results were what we saw. I think the engineering isn't the problem but hubris. Rush unfortunately wouldn't listen to warnings. How many times has that happened in human history with the same results? James Cameron was right when he said that the hubris of the Titanic captain and Rush were far too similar.
Regardless, it is a sad outcome with the deaths involved. With that in mind, I thought about how many bodies have they recovered of the migrants that died in Europe at around the same time? It just goes to show our priorities as humans, and how we are fixated and fascinated so easily, and so short sighted and blind to other issues.
I don't understand the physics of a deep sea implosion. If the CF hull was the failure point why would the porthole window detach from the end cap? Wouldn't the pressure be released as the hull imploded, and the window and end cap separate as one unit? To me the window missing from the end cap makes an argument that the window was the failure point.
It would be fascinating to see the same sub implode with high-speed cameras filming it. And ballistics gel crash dummies inside.
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I don't understand the physics of a deep sea implosion. If the CF hull was the failure point why would the porthole window detach from the end cap? Wouldn't the pressure be released as the hull imploded, and the window and end cap separate as one unit? To me the window missing from the end cap makes an argument that the window was the failure point.
It would be fascinating to see the same sub implode with high-speed cameras filming it. And ballistics gel crash dummies inside.
Ya, it could be, I'm no expert. I was just thinking if the tube collapsed, that air gets compressed and will force it's way through weak points, the window being one.
Ya, it could be, I'm no expert. I was just thinking if the tube collapsed, that air gets compressed and will force it's way through weak points, the window being one.
