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Old 06-28-2023, 09:07 PM   #341
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Agree if you if theres a player you like that may not be there when you trade down, just take him.
Agree as well.

It also seems pointless to lament failing to trade down in a 1st round where nobody did that.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:07 PM   #342
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The Monahan comparison is interesting as he chose #23...
It's the 2023 draft.. '23.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:08 PM   #343
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Wonder if the Flames take Honzak's teammate Jaden Lipinski with a 2nd or 3rd pick. Another 6'4" kid, put up 51pts with the Giants as a 17 year old. Ranked 80th by TSN.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:09 PM   #344
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:11 PM   #345
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It's the 2023 draft.. '23.
Well now I'm sold.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:11 PM   #346
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Better than Weisbrod picking Jankowski cause he watched a game after he got stuck in a blizzard.
This is true!
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:12 PM   #347
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Based on Bingos pre draft cumulative rankings, this reeks of a Feaster length film pick where the protagonist is the smartest man in the room. Hope I'm wrong.
No it doesn’t.

There are 16 scouting agencies or publications in the OP - Honzek average rank is 19th - we got him three spots earlier.

Two outlets have him as a top-10 selection.

ONE GUY (Button) had Jankowski as a 1st round pick going into the draft.
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https://twitter.com/mitchlbrown/stat...122821632?s=12

Some more highlights of Honzek, he was 4th in even strength points per 60, behind Bedard, Benson and Cristall.
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No surprise. Vancouver Giants GM gushes about him

https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/flames-...samuel-honzek/
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In the same article, NHL executives were asked who their favourite WHL prospect after Bedard was.

Executive 4: “Samuel Honzek does everything well. He’s fast, skilled, he can score and create offense for his teammates. He works hard. He can create from the perimeter, he can be a net-front guy, and can kill penalties, and does all of this in a 6-foot-4 frame. There’s so much more pro in his game than the other choices.”

Executive 5: “It’s between Danielson and Honzek for me. I lean Danielson because of the position. Both have NHL bodies and skating ability, produce offense and are two-way guys.”
Again, screams "NHL safe".

The last first round selection I got predominantly "safe" vibes from (after looking into them) was Matthew Tkachuk.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:21 PM   #351
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Unpopular opinion alert: let’s wait and see
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This kid looks like a beauty.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:27 PM   #353
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I have very little knowledge on the draft so I can’t make a definitive decision one way or another. Flames obviously seem happy with the pick so that has to count for something. The scouts and Conroy would presumably have done their due diligence and feel like this is “their guy.” I guess I’m disappointed as there seemed to be better options available (based on what some insiders have said). Once again I don’t follow prospects closely so maybe this is a great pick but I would have preferred to have seen a more offensive gifted player taken given what was available at 16. Hope it works out for Calgary and the team gets a stud with this selection.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:29 PM   #354
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Seems like a 3rd liner. Don't like this pick.
Honest question, do you just hate everything about this team? And if the answer is yes as your posting history suggests wtf are you doing here?
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He'll be better than Cowen! So FY Treliving!
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Having never seen this player and knowing nothing about him before the draft I can safely say we should fold the franchise
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Right. So you trade down 2 spots to get a mid round pick and lose the guy you wanted.
You trade down when you have a cluster of players that you don't really distinguish between.
You don't trade down when you have a guy ahead of a cluster.
Maybe, but this sounds similarly conclusion-jumping and GM mind reading as my initial knee jerk take to the pick was.

Don't see a ton of point in being that critical about liking the idea of us swapping 16 for 18 and picking up a 3rd or 4th because the team below us might be desperate to get a guy not named Honzek who was sliding.

There are different angles to look at it from.

The potential upside is you have more picks and still get Honzek 2 picks later.

If you put out a couple feelers to the teams in between and get the sense that you can still get him, then why not?

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There are a lot of people in this thread hating on the pick because they hate on everything the team does. It didn't matter who we selected the reaction was going to be the same for these people. I truly don't understand how someone can supposedly cheer for a team and always hate every move they make. It is just weird.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:35 PM   #359
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There are a lot of people in this thread hating on the pick because they hate on everything the team does. It didn't matter who we selected the reaction was going to be the same for these people. I truly don't understand how someone can supposedly cheer for a team and always hate every move they make. It is just weird.
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Sorry based on what basis does it "sound like" any of that?
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