06-27-2023, 06:27 PM
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#101
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
A couple more trades like this one, and I won't even be watching next season. Just need to pick up a new hobby.
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I thought fans would support a complete tear down !
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06-27-2023, 06:32 PM
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#102
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
I thought fans would support a complete tear down !
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People would support it from home with a half empty Dome. I don't support the waste of assets, because I am of the opinion that Toffoli is worth at least a couple of 2nds at the deadline.
I was actually hoping we could speed up a rebuild by getting lots of assets. Here I don't think it accomplishes anything unless Huberdeau has chemistry with Yegor and they both have a great season.
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06-27-2023, 06:34 PM
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#103
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
To the doom and gloomers… you realize there’s still 6 prominent players that could be dealt and an entire draft to get through that is as deep a draft as there’s been in near a decade? Right? Give him at least the rest of the week before declaring the direction of the team.
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He said it himself though. He thinks the team can be competitive and trying to be competitive is the standard operating procedure for the Flames.
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06-27-2023, 06:34 PM
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#104
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
I thought fans would support a complete tear down !
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That wasn’t a rebuild trade though.
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06-27-2023, 06:38 PM
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#105
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Originally Posted by Bonded
That wasn’t a rebuild trade though.
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We’ll I guess we could have got a 6th like Philly did for Hayes ! That would make
You want to watch the team more ?
I think people just got overexcited imagining 4 extra 1sts tomorrow
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06-27-2023, 06:39 PM
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#106
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
That wasn’t a rebuild trade though.
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They aren't rebuilding.
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06-27-2023, 06:40 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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So he says the trade offers are underwhelming....then he accepts one?
The good news is, as Flames fans we're àlready used to disappointment.
Its really early for this but I'm guessing the Flames draft between 13-16 nex5 year.
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06-27-2023, 06:41 PM
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#108
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Originally Posted by MrMike
Philly - Retain on 3 years 3.5 mill just to dump
Flames - won’t retain 2 mill for one year for better assets.
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Flyers retain for three years and get a 6th. Calgary does no retention and get's a player AND a 3rd. Huge win in comparison. I don't think retention would have made a difference. You weren't getting a 1st or 2nd for Toffoli.
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06-27-2023, 06:41 PM
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#109
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Originally Posted by Poe969
So he says the trade offers are underwhelming....then he accepts one?
The good news is, as Flames fans we're àlready used to disappointment.
Its really early for this but I'm guessing the Flames draft between 13-16 nex5 year.
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How would feel if the original offer was a 3rd and 5th?
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06-27-2023, 06:43 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Like someone could do better. Or hold out till the deadline. Or make him part of a bigger deal.
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06-27-2023, 06:44 PM
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#111
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Originally Posted by Sec214
How would feel if the original offer was a 3rd and 5th?
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Well Sharangovich was drafted in the 5th ! Think of the possibilities !
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06-27-2023, 06:48 PM
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#112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
How would feel if the original offer was a 3rd and 5th?
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Was draft day the deadline to trade Toffoli? Must have missed that memo
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06-27-2023, 06:49 PM
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#113
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Was draft day the deadline to trade Toffoli? Must have missed that memo
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No one stopped you from applying
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06-27-2023, 06:50 PM
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#114
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
How would feel if the original offer was a 3rd and 5th?
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Then I’m glad Conny got the deal he did cause yeesh
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06-27-2023, 06:51 PM
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#115
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bonded
Was draft day the deadline to trade Toffoli? Must have missed that memo
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No it wasn’t but what happens if he can’t be traded due to injury.
What if’s don’t matter otherwise we’d have books written about it by every guy who GMs your favourite team.
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06-27-2023, 06:52 PM
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#116
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sunny California
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Veteran GMs are looking to fleece the Rookie GM nothing to be surprised about. New Jersey was successful so far, other GMs will be encouraged by that trade.
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06-27-2023, 06:54 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Forestlawn 403
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How is is toffoli not worth a 1st mind blowing. Could we not got more at the trade deadline or even retained 2mil. So disappointing this teams kicks the sack
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06-27-2023, 06:57 PM
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#118
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Originally Posted by Angelino
Veteran GMs are looking to fleece the Rookie GM nothing to be surprised about. New Jersey was successful so far, other GMs will be encouraged by that trade.
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That only holds if no other GM wanted Toffoli
They can’t “fleece” a GM unless they are all colluding against Calgary
And if this is the only team interested , that really shows what the true market is
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06-27-2023, 07:01 PM
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#119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Southside403
How is is toffoli not worth a 1st mind blowing. Could we not got more at the trade deadline or even retained 2mil. So disappointing this teams kicks the sack
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Because teams pay for what they think a guy is going to do, not what he's done. Toffoli is probably looked at as a guy who will not repeat his performance from last season, and that makes sense. He's slow and he's going a team that plays a speed game, so that's going to impact him. I wouldn't pay a high price for him knowing a reduction is likely.
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06-27-2023, 07:10 PM
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#120
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Southside403
How is is toffoli not worth a 1st mind blowing. Could we not got more at the trade deadline or even retained 2mil. So disappointing this teams kicks the sack
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Why would Toffoli be worth a first? He was only worth that when he had cap friendly term.
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