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Old 06-27-2023, 06:06 PM   #41
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In my thread about Reddit Sliver posited that the 'r' word should be okay to say, at least in certain contexts. I agree.

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For Silver's title? Make it so.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:10 PM   #42
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Just pick a different word. The dictionary is big. It ain't that hard.
I think that's reasonable for you to do if that's what you want. I'd like to continue using it, though.

I feel like I don't go around making rules for other people, but there sure seem to be a lot of people who like telling others what to do or censoring them to suit their sensibilities.
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For Silver's title? Make it so.
Sadly that would be an improvement on this ####ty one I'm stuck with.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:15 PM   #44
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I think that's reasonable for you to do if that's what you want. I'd like to continue using it, though.

I feel like I don't go around making rules for other people, but there sure seem to be a lot of people who like telling others what to do or censoring them to suit their sensibilities.
So you are OK with continuing to use a word that offends a group of people based on how its been historically used.
Where do you draw that line? Just curious how you make that assessment. I'm guessing there are word you choose NOT to use because it's not acceptable.
Why is this one OK and the other ones you don't use not OK?
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:28 PM   #45
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Are any modern mentally disabled people labeled with the R word anymore? It seems that disappeared at least 30 years ago, and is now probably a harmless insult.

I've noticed the teenage circles have moved on to autistic as the replacement insult, which is likely much more hurtful to others. I put an effort into trying to quash that and homophobic slurs with my kids, but I'm inclined to let the R word go, just because I don't think it is hurting anyone anymore.
I’ve noticed this as well. It’s also happened previously with idiot, moron, imbecile, dumb etc

The word used to describe people with different cognitive abilities will always be turned into a slur. We are seeing it now with Autistic.

I give it another 10 years and the R-word comes back as a generic word for stupid.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:32 PM   #46
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I think if you want to want it to be used less, like capitalism baby, come up with a better one to take its place. That’s what I’ve done.

So for the R word here’s what I’ve come up with:
- Fuh k tard - Servicible, I think it reduced the rword numbers for a few years but it is derivative and we all know it.
- Mongo - short and sweet, but probably worse plus way more people will not know what mongo means so it loses lethality.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:32 PM   #47
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This place could never handle it. You call someone silly and they go off the deep end.

People complain about the swear filter or not being able to use the more cutting slurs, but honestly, just try being lightly condescending to people. Some of them act like you called them a ####ing ###### without you even having to say it.
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What about Geek . Can we safely use it again !

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Old 06-27-2023, 06:37 PM   #49
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So you are OK with continuing to use a word that offends a group of people based on how its been historically used.
Where do you draw that line? Just curious how you make that assessment. I'm guessing there are word you choose NOT to use because it's not acceptable.
Why is this one OK and the other ones you don't use not OK?
I believe the offense is manufactured so I dismiss it.
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So are there words you don’t use?
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It's anecdotal of course, but I witnessed the parents of a child with downs syndrome get extremely upset in a parent/school administration meeting, when another parent used the word in the manner that everyone here wants to use it.

I was pretty neutral on its usage before that, after witnessing how upset they were, I don't think I've said it since.

Weird crusade to try and bring back a word that can upset people to that extent.
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It's anecdotal of course, but I witnessed the parents of a child with downs syndrome get extremely upset in a parent/school administration meeting, when another parent used the word in the manner that everyone here wants to use it.

I was pretty neutral on its usage before that, after witnessing how upset they were, I don't think I've said it since.

Weird crusade to try and bring back a word that can upset people to that extent.
I’m upset by your use of the word crusade. I find it offensive. You should stop using that word.
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So are there words you don’t use?
Of course.
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It's anecdotal of course, but I witnessed the parents of a child with downs syndrome get extremely upset in a parent/school administration meeting, when another parent used the word in the manner that everyone here wants to use it.

I was pretty neutral on its usage before that, after witnessing how upset they were, I don't think I've said it since.

Weird crusade to try and bring back a word that can upset people to that extent.
Well yeah, but that's totally different. Why would you use anything other than professional language in that context?
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It's anecdotal of course, but I witnessed the parents of a child with downs syndrome get extremely upset in a parent/school administration meeting, when another parent used the word in the manner that everyone here wants to use it.

I was pretty neutral on its usage before that, after witnessing how upset they were, I don't think I've said it since.

Weird crusade to try and bring back a word that can upset people to that extent.
I’m fine with words falling out of fashion for whatever reason, but I hate the idea that we don’t use words on account of second-hand offence when the intent isn’t there.

Like, there’s a distinct difference between calling someone a fag because you’re a homophobe vs using it because you’re british or part of the LGBTQ community and believe in the importance of reducing the power of words like that by using them casually.

I think the idea that a word “isn’t allowed” is tough because of that, and people just look at it as unfair some people can use the word and others can’t.

What we should be teaching each other and calling out is the intent. There’s plenty of homophobic and transphobic stuff allowed on CP, for example, mostly because they avoid slurs. That seems so ####ing backwards to me.

Intent matters more than word choice, imo.
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I think that's reasonable for you to do if that's what you want. I'd like to continue using it, though.

I feel like I don't go around making rules for other people, but there sure seem to be a lot of people who like telling others what to do or censoring them to suit their sensibilities.

This is like all free speech arguments. Say it if you want on your own platform. CP, Reddit, et al can moderate how they see deem appropriate for the type of user experience they want to cultivate.

I think if you want a platform that allows childish and derogatory terms in posts, you may be disappointed with the level of discourse that eventually results.
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I think that's reasonable for you to do if that's what you want. I'd like to continue using it, though.

I feel like I don't go around making rules for other people, but there sure seem to be a lot of people who like telling others what to do or censoring them to suit their sensibilities.
So go around saying it and don't be a such a cword (coward)
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Silver deserved his Reddit ban.

This word as a slur has no place in a Canadian's vocabulary.

The only thing that needs to be ######ed is the timing on the engine of a race car.
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It's anecdotal of course, but I witnessed the parents of a child with downs syndrome get extremely upset in a parent/school administration meeting, when another parent used the word in the manner that everyone here wants to use it.

I was pretty neutral on its usage before that, after witnessing how upset they were, I don't think I've said it since.

Weird crusade to try and bring back a word that can upset people to that extent.
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This is actually the bigger underlying issue: everyone already knows what the hell you're saying anyway.

The word ###### The R-word has gone through so many mutations over the years, and every time someone starts using the new version in a way that's kind of sh-tty, the word or phrase becomes verboten and a new politically correct one takes its place... only to meet the exact same fate a short time later, and again, another word / phrase replaces it... rinse, repeat. And of course you know someone's dad is going to use the previous word having missed the memo that we're discontinuing the old version, and he's going to get in sh-t at the family Christmas party or something.

Isn't anyone else kind of sick of this stupid, pointless exercise?

If someone says something in a sh-tty way (eg: calling someone with a mental disability a ######), then call them on it. And before some moron brings it up, the "N-word" is not a comparable because it was used from the very beginning to refer to black people. It has no other meaning, that was literally the point of its creation, to refer to them specifically.
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