2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Well you haven't given us anything to talk about today...so technically this is your fault.

Wait I thought I left my wife at home in Calgary....

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you can certainly wait past June

I'm glad they didn't go for something like what the Jets got

Over the last couple years very few trades get made after July 1st.

This week tends to be your best shot to make a trade before the deadline. Especially with how tight teams are to the cap.

Unless maybe the Flames are looking for Money In, Money out "hockey trades" which would also be a mistake IMO.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Over the last couple years very few trades get made after July 1st.

This week tends to be your best shot to make a trade before the deadline. Especially with how tight teams are to the cap.

my goal wouldn't be "making a trade"

make a good trade

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Over the last couple years very few trades get made after July 1st.

This week tends to be your best shot to make a trade before the deadline. Especially with how tight teams are to the cap.

and importantly, if this team is trying to compete now (…hockey gods help us), you have to build the majority of your team in the next 7 days.

Having such significant parts of your roster stand unresolved makes little sense.

…unless your intention is to just run it back…

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you can certainly wait past June

I'm glad they didn't go for something like what the Jets got

These are all artificial deadlines. If the team isn't competitive and they aren't traded by the deadline, then it is time to worry.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

These are all artificial deadlines. If the team isn't competitive and they aren't traded by the deadline, then it is time to worry.

The problem here is these players have indicated they likely don't want to stay.

Going into the season, making the playoffs as a wild card, and the losing in round one and letting these guys walk would also be a mistake.

It's a mistake whether the team is competitive or not.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

These are all artificial deadlines. If the team isn't competitive and they aren't traded by the deadline, then it is time to worry.

No no, don’t worry. Even if they’re not traded at the deadline, there’s still time to sign them before free agency. It’ll be fine. Surely if they’re still here, it means they want to re-sign.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

No no, don’t worry. Even if they’re not traded at the deadline, there’s still time to sign them before free agency. It’ll be fine. Surely if they’re still here, it means they want to re-sign.

And no worries even then, still time to re-sign them after July 1, 2024.

[Zulu29]

Hey Sec, any word if things are more likely to go down tomorrow at the draft rather than today?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Wait I thought I left my wife at home in Calgary....

So you're there in nashville?

Are you in the media?

[flambers]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

These are all artificial deadlines. If the team isn't competitive and they aren't traded by the deadline, then it is time to worry.

Flames could be in a group of teams working to obtain a playoff spot. Its way to easy to not trade the asset,

Flames don't have the depth to keep on that path, losing an asset to UFA.

In my view, they need to move 2 of them before July 1st.

Lindholm is likely the toughest trade, that might take awhile.

However it should occur in the summer IMO

[Tbull8]

Eklund says there are serious conversations with Arizona and some with Chicago regarding Huberdeua....ya ok then

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The problem here is these players have indicated they likely don't want to stay.

Going into the season, making the playoffs as a wild card, and the losing in round one and letting these guys walk would also be a mistake.

It's a mistake whether the team is competitive or not.

Most of the players want to stay but want more term and or money than is being offered


Anyway I am not saying don't trade anyone I am saying don't make a bad deal just to "do something"

These guys are all in contract years...they are gonna ball out this season

[ComixZone]

Fourth Period with a nothing burger other than Zadorov also being in trade talks

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673806775353593857

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Eklund says there are serious conversations with Arizona and some with Chicago regarding Huberdeua....ya ok then

That'd certainly mark an actual rebuild...but I just don't see it.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Hey Sec, any word if things are more likely to go down tomorrow at the draft rather than today?

yes

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Over the last couple years very few trades get made after July 1st.

This week tends to be your best shot to make a trade before the deadline. Especially with how tight teams are to the cap.

Unless maybe the Flames are looking for Money In, Money out "hockey trades" which would also be a mistake IMO.

Some pretty significant ones were made after draft day last year: Brent Burns to Hurricanes, Zacha/Haula trade, Pacioretty, Petry, Marino, Bjorkstrand, Hill, Kulikov, some guy named Tkachuk.

The year before, after draft day: Nate Schmidt, MAF, Tyler Johnson, Vladar, Zadorov, Dadonov, Reaves, Dvorak.

2019: Burakovsky, Roy, Hartman, Soderberg, Kadri, Ceci, Lucic/Neal, Jokiharju, Vesey.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

my goal wouldn't be "making a trade"

make a good trade

I agree that you can't just give guys away, but you need to be aggressive and assertive in shopping these players. And just my own opinion is it feels like the Flames are still being passive and responsive here.

My worry is they are paralyzed on moving Hanifin, Toffoli, and Backlund due to the Lindholm situation.

I worry that if they know Lindholm is gone they then maybe they are open to futures trades, but if Lindholm stays they want to make more hockey trades to stay competitive.

When what they should be doing is making futures trades for picks and prospects either way. And then if you do want to remain competitive use those assets to try to acquire players because it's easier than making hockey trades, or bring in players that are more cap dumps but still good players.

Maybe with a more clear direction (like St.Louis had at the deadline) you could have brought in a Hall or Hayes for no real acquisition cost.

Especially with the league so cash strapped.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

my goal wouldn't be "making a trade"

make a good trade

Agreed, but I still get strong vibes from you that you're on team "just get in" and want to roll with aging vets that aren't keen on being here and that's mildly disappointing.

I hope you see the light (aka a rebuild) soon.

You don't have to pretend you're happy with the status quo any more, man. Mediocrity sucks. Let's shoot for better.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Eklund says there are serious conversations with Arizona and some with Chicago regarding Huberdeua....ya ok then

Eklund is still around? He made his name in the lockout in 2004 i think.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Eklund says there are serious conversations with Arizona and some with Chicago regarding Huberdeua....ya ok then

Eklund is an idiot.