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Old 06-27-2023, 01:40 PM   #2061
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I think part of it is that whole rule about only being able to sign 8 year extensions with the current team didn't always exist. There was no real need to make it a sign and trade. It used to be that the team acquiring the player would just be given permission to talk about a contract with the player before the trade was made to get a deal in principle, then the acquiring team would sign the player right after the trade.

It also only makes sense in relatively rare cases where the team wants to sign the player for 8 years. One smaller factor is that almost all new contracts come with some kind of NMC which prevents players from getting blindsided right after signing. Most teams would never do that, but it has happened in other leagues where NMCs are more rare.

Good points, but I think the 8-year thing came in with the 2013 CBA. So it still took almost a decade for anyone to figure it out, which is wild to me.
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Old 06-27-2023, 01:57 PM   #2062
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PLD extended. $8.5x8.

I think if you’re a high end player in position for an extremely lucrative extension, you’re certainly open to signing now opposed to a year from now.
Absolutely, as long as the extension is in 2024 cap dollars.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:04 PM   #2063
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PLD extended. $8.5x8.

I think if you’re a high end player in position for an extremely lucrative extension, you’re certainly open to signing now opposed to a year from now.
Yeah. The last set of guys who bet on themselves failed pretty bad in Klingberg and Hall. Huberdeau gets a 2 million discount if he signs this offseason. Gaudreau didn’t get run over with the offers he expected. Skinner was majorly overpaid etc
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They're finally awake guys, had to get the guys new boots & hats but its happening.

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Old 06-27-2023, 02:08 PM   #2065
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Chris Johnston put the over/under for how many trades the Flames make before Sunday at 1.5.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:11 PM   #2066
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Chris Johnston put the over/under for how many trades the Flames make before Sunday at 1.5.
Before Sunday? I'd like to know what it is before the draft tomorrow LOL.
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Chris Johnston put the over/under for how many trades the Flames make before Sunday at 1.5.
If they only make 1 trade that would be a miss IMO.
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Chris Johnston put the over/under for how many trades the Flames make before Sunday at 1.5.
For those who are betting amateurs like me and have no idea what that means, is that high probability or low?
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:15 PM   #2069
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They're finally awake guys, had to get the guys new boots & hats but its happening.


It feels so good to have Iggy back in the fold. Conroy and Iggy working side by side is just so awesome.


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For those who are betting amateurs like me and have no idea what that means, is that high probability or low?
It means he believes that the most likely outcome is the Flames make 1 or 2 trades before Sunday. Not 0 and not 3+

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I predict two trades happening by Thursday:

1 major (hanifin/toffoli/lindholm)

1 minor (vladar/draft position)
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:19 PM   #2072
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How can you not smile watching those 2 on interviews.
I really hope their tenure in management works out here, because I like them too much to turn sour on them.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:23 PM   #2073
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It's surreal to actually see iggy in the flesh participating in Flames operations/affairs.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:24 PM   #2074
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Habs won't qualify Gurianov but are trying to sign him to a lower value contract

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673789062912638976
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Loved Iggy's takes, his interviews are always so good. The mix of seriousness but some fun and laughs mixed in is so refreshing. Not the cliche garbage that you hear all the time, I'm hopeful our management team is shaping up quite well.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:27 PM   #2076
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Yeah. The last set of guys who bet on themselves failed pretty bad in Klingberg and Hall. Huberdeau gets a 2 million discount if he signs this offseason. Gaudreau didn’t get run over with the offers he expected. Skinner was majorly overpaid etc
Smaller scale: Glencross seriously misjudged his value.
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Guriyanov could be a nice pick up
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Toffoli, Hanifin, and Vladar should be moved by the end of the draft on Thursday IMO.
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Conroy seems a bit reticent and downbeat in that interview.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:40 PM   #2080
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If they only make 1 trade that would be a miss IMO.
Before Sunday?

I would rather them make one or none as opposed to bad trades
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