06-26-2023, 02:38 PM
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#81
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Draft Pick
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Bruins with a salary dump to trade for and sign Lindholm to replace Bergeron. Book it.
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06-26-2023, 02:40 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix_sk
Bruins with a salary dump to trade for and sign Lindholm to replace Bergeron. Book it.
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The Bruins have to sign or get replacements for Bertuzzi, Bergeron, Krejci, Hathaway, Nosek, Swayman, Clifton, Orlov, and Mitchell. They needed to do the Hall trade and they still don't have money for Lindholm.
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06-26-2023, 02:42 PM
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#83
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
But Chicago already had Keith, Seabrook, Sharp, Bolland etc.
Chicago has basically nothing but prospects and picks, so it'll take a few extra years to become competitive.
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I think they can be better next year than expected and a year out even more.
It's not like they were unexpectedly bad last year. They have been working towards this since the 2022 trade deadline. With a talent like Bedard you don't need as much to become competitive. Hall might find its not so bad playing there.
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06-26-2023, 02:54 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Boston clearing cap space to trade for hometown by Noah Hanifin?
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06-26-2023, 03:03 PM
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#85
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Boston clearing cap space to trade for hometown by Noah Hanifin?
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Boston clearing cap space to be able to dress 20 players a night this upcoming season
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06-26-2023, 03:05 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Old in hockey terms, young in regular life terms.
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I don't think old in hockey terms until 36.
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06-26-2023, 03:09 PM
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#87
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Hall is far more valuable than Monahan was at the time of his trade. The value for Chicago will be what they get for Hall when they flip him, not the value of the space.
Also, prices fluctuate, based on supply and demand - unfortunately, we needed to move Monahan right when the value of cap space was at its biggest premium.
But yes, with the failure of the team this year, it makes the Monahan trade taste pretty bitter.
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Next you're gonna tell us Hamonic was worth a 1st and two 2nds because of "price fluctuations". Funny how the Flames were consistently on the wrong end of those.
Treliving was a terrible GM. There. Much simpler explanation.
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06-26-2023, 03:15 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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It seems like a lot longer than 3 years ago that half of CP wanted to offer Hall 7x8M.
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06-26-2023, 03:16 PM
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#89
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First Line Centre
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Boston also acquired Reilly Walsh for Shane Bowers today.
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06-26-2023, 03:21 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
I think they can be better next year than expected and a year out even more.
It's not like they were unexpectedly bad last year. They have been working towards this since the 2022 trade deadline. With a talent like Bedard you don't need as much to become competitive. Hall might find its not so bad playing there.
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Bedard is not going to make that lineup competitive this year.
When they got Kane and Toews, they were at the end of their rebuild. As The Cobra said, they already had Keith, Seabrook, Byfuglien, Sharp, Lang, Ladd, Versteeg...
They weren't a team just entering a rebuild and Kane made them great all by himself.
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06-26-2023, 03:22 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Next you're gonna tell us Hamonic was worth a 1st and two 2nds because of "price fluctuations". Funny how the Flames were consistently on the wrong end of those.
Treliving was a terrible GM. There. Much simpler explanation.
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Cool - make #### up and use that as an argument.
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06-26-2023, 03:55 PM
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#92
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Bedard is not going to make that lineup competitive this year.
When they got Kane and Toews, they were at the end of their rebuild. As The Cobra said, they already had Keith, Seabrook, Byfuglien, Sharp, Lang, Ladd, Versteeg...
They weren't a team just entering a rebuild and Kane made them great all by himself.
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I'm not saying they'll be a playoff team this year. But they could be like a 80 point team. Another year out and add a bit and they could be a playoff team.
My point is that a piece as good as Bedard plus some other items they added last year and this could let them turn a lot quicker than a team like Detroit that seems to always be picking 4th type of thing.
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06-26-2023, 03:59 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
I'm not saying they'll be a playoff team this year. But they could be like a 80 point team. Another year out and add a bit and they could be a playoff team.
My point is that a piece as good as Bedard plus some other items they added last year and this could let them turn a lot quicker than a team like Detroit that seems to always be picking 4th type of thing.
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They could be an 80 point team if they tried to be an 80 point team and used their cap space to acquire some veterans on contracts they'd regret.
But I expect they'll sign enough players to 1-2 year contracts to fill out their team and use their cap space to acquire talent.
If they really wanted to get to 80 points, they'd try and acquire a goalie who could actually stop a puck or two.
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06-26-2023, 04:03 PM
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#94
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Next you're gonna tell us Hamonic was worth a 1st and two 2nds because of "price fluctuations". Funny how the Flames were consistently on the wrong end of those.
Treliving was a terrible GM. There. Much simpler explanation.
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Yeah.
That’s why he’ll never get another GM job ever again after other teams completely assess his body of work & see that Hamonic trade.
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06-26-2023, 04:30 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Pure cap dump. Now, Chicago will probably flip him with salary retained and get a better return than what they just gave up.
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This makes a lot of sense, unless Chicago is hoping Hall's negotiating savvy rubs off on Bedard.
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06-27-2023, 09:03 AM
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#96
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-27-2023, 09:06 AM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Veteran to support the young guys, and help meet the cap floor.
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06-27-2023, 09:13 AM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if Hall gets traded soon. Hawks retaining 50% on Hall suddenly makes him an incredibly attractive option for almost any contender. I am not sure they have any retention spots open, but if they do, it certainly could create a bit of a bidding war.
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06-27-2023, 09:14 AM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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I can understand this deal from Chicago's perspective.
They need someone to help Bedard score at the NHL level, enter Hall.
They need someone to help Bedard learn how to be an absolute pro at the NHL level, enter Foligno.
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06-27-2023, 09:16 AM
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#100
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
I wonder if Hall gets traded soon. Hawks retaining 50% on Hall suddenly makes him an incredibly attractive option for almost any contender. I am not sure they have any retention spots open, but if they do, it certainly could create a bit of a bidding war.
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I doubt it. They don’t want to develop Bedard around a bunch of junk. Hall will be a good winger for him to play with and a mentor that knows what it’s like to be a 1st overall pick in a hockey market.
Hall also has 2 years left on his deal so they can pick up some assets two deadlines from now.
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