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			Sorry but what does "not distant futures" mean? Futures that aren't far away, or not futures at all? 
 
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			06-26-2023, 11:25 AM
			
			
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				Does a 50 percent retained Toffoli get you 20th OA from SEA? 
			
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I don’t see how 50% retained on any of the players don’t return a first round pick. They are all on very good deals.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:25 AM
			
			
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			I've been saying all along,  
Lindholm to detroit for 9th+zadina? 
Hanifin buffalo for 13+ 
Toff Rangers for Laf (please)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:26 AM
			
			
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			Toffoli at $2.125 (and paid even less in cash if they retain 50% of actual money) is such a bargain rental.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:26 AM
			
			
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				Does a 50 percent retained Toffoli get you 20th OA from SEA? 
			
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It should - since really he should come with a 1st even without full retention. 
 
Devils being involved in that surprises me...but sometimes I wonder if they would move Holtz.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:27 AM
			
			
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			The suggestion of bringing back picks and prospects while retaining salary to maximize value is essentially the dream scenario.  Liking what I’m hearing.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:27 AM
			
			
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				I've been saying all along,  
Lindholm to detroit for 9th+zadina? 
Hanifin buffalo for 13+ 
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Prepare to be disappointed with those expectations.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:27 AM
			
			
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				are ... are we actually starting to do smart business? Almost sounds too good to be true. 
			
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Teams that don't typically retain makes other teams know there is a cost.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-26-2023, 11:27 AM
			
			
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			Goal scoring wasn't Seattle's biggest issue I don't think, and still a young franchise under Francis' watch. I can't see them parting with their 1st for Toffoli. IMO
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:28 AM
			
			
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			If you need to eat salary coming back to get a higher 1st you can do that too.  
 
You should be happy to pay out contracts if you're getting the magic beans for your next core in the process. 
 
One thing Arizona did right. And they'll be picking like 18 times in this draft.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:28 AM
			
			
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			Surprised not seeing Dallas's name for Toffoli.  
 
He feels like such a natural fit there with thier current needs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:28 AM
			
			
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				I've been saying all along,  
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As much as I would absolutely hate sucking next year.  That makes it move a little bit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:28 AM
			
			
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				I've been saying all along,  
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I'm crazy but I like 17 and a higher d prospect more than Zadina and 9th OA.
 
Edvinsson is perfect to replace Hanifin.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-26-2023, 11:29 AM
			
			
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				Goal scoring wasn't Seattle's biggest issue I don't think, and still a young franchise under Francis' watch. I can't see them parting with their 1st for Toffoli. IMO 
			
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Give them Vladar also
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:29 AM
			
			
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				It should - since really he should come with a 1st even without full retention.  
 
Devils being involved in that surprises me...but sometimes I wonder if they would move Holtz. 
			
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Mmmm Holtz. Boy oh boy thatd be sweet.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-26-2023, 11:29 AM
			
			
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				Surprised not seeing Dallas's name for Toffoli.  
 
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I think the Lindholm trade is sleeping here atm. They love the idea but Calgary's demand is firm. Do they get desperate.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-26-2023, 11:30 AM
			
			
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				I'm crazy but I like 17 and a higher d prospect more than Zadina and 9th OA. 
 
Edvinsson is perfect to replace Hanifin. 
			
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Don't get too attached to a hanifin replacement. 
 
There are potentially franchise players lurking at 9OA
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:31 AM
			
			
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Hmm. Probably not bringing Jones back. Daccord seemed to fit in well. Driedger  a buyout option? Makes it more interesting for sure.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-26-2023, 11:31 AM
			
			
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			If the Flames go full retention on Lindy, Hanifin and Toffoli, the returns should be in l8ne with fans lofty desires. Extensions negotiated or not.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-26-2023, 11:32 AM
			
			
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				I think the Lindholm trade is sleeping here atm. They love the idea but Calgary's demand is firm. Do they get desperate. 
			
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Someone is going to lowball the new guy and hope he bites. Will be interesting to see if anything shakes out by the draft. Maybe Conroy starts with toffoli as a test run lol
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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