2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

Tried to nail down the team.. It's not Columbus.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

I’m guessing Carolina. They asked about Lindholm at the deadline. And they’re one of the few teams that can take on substantial cap without sending any back.

As for the prospects, Nikishin is locked into his KHL deal until 2025, so he’s isn’t “not too distant.” Morrow would be a nice get, but I doubt Carolina want to deal their top prospect. So you’re probably looking at Rees (21), Gunler (21), or Honka (22). Maybe two of the above.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Avs just got a #2/3 C for free because the Preds wanted to clear $4 mil. Cap is king. If you’re looking for a straight player for picks deal, you’re going to have a real tough time getting full value.

Agreed. Hence why every one of these deals should see Calgary offering to retain 50% for the next season if they aren’t being traded with an extension already in place.

The exponential value of a Hanafin, Lindholm, Backlund and Toffoli at a 2M-ish salary should be more than enough to help any team fit them into their current cap structure.

Big opportunity for Conroy here, hopefully he’s using every chip available.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Seems like a good start if true. Not distant futures can mean b prospects though.

The ask is Blue Chip + 1st at a minimum, I doubt there will be a lot of "B" prospects if he's traded.

[ClubFlames]

It could be Carolina with a Necas + 1st rounder package.

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Twitter rumor guy with a new tweet

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673343393433362434

In the replies he said the non-UFA is Vladar

I don't think this is right. The information I have heard is that the hold up is negotiating a contract extension on at least one of the players for a sign and trade (or at least for a trade with an extension already negotiated through the agent). I got the impression that there is a lot of interest and the Flames know what they want... didn't get the impression at all that other GMs were lowballing a rookie (also with Don Mahoney on the calls I doubt GMs would even bother).

Reading between the lines, I think the players that do not want to extend here are behaving in a similar vein to Tkachuk because they have positive relationships with Conroy and the rest of management, so there is a cooperative effort to maximize return and to move these players to teams that they are comfortable with.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

Welp…..it was nice knowing you Lindy

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

It could be Carolina with a Necas + 1st rounder package.

Carolina has some contracts to figure out Seb and Teuvo, they wont tie anything up till those are done.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

It could be Carolina with a Necas + 1st rounder package.

Necas is already a now not a not too distant future

[jg13]

Pull the damn trigger Conroy! Lets get this thing rolling

[flamesgod]

I say it’s Detroit.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Conroy couldn't have been put in a tougher spot to start his tenure as GM. If you compare it to when Tre started here for example.......and the situations were not exactly the same, not trying to say that, but when Tre started, the previous GM had already bungled the "big" moves of the team essentially turning over (Feaster handled those).

While that sucked for the franchise that those moves weren't handled well, Tre was left with what he was left with to start, he missed out on the pressure of handling the moves with players wanting out, and the sharks circling to take advantage of our situation.

This time around, I'd say the moves have the potential for even higher stakes for Conny, the issues are more public, there are more of them, and he's brand new. Literally can't think of a tougher spot to be in. He's going to need patience, and we are going to need patience with him and this situation as well.

I always like to find Calgary / Buffalo parallels since they're my two favorite teams, and this is another one. Kevyn Adams came in a rookie GM to a tenuous room with multiple core players wanting out, and then six months of Eichel drama. Similar situation (though obviously not quite Eichel-scale) -- he was able to make three really good trades that set the franchise on a path forward. Really interested to see what Conroy does this week and in the coming weeks.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

The ask is Blue Chip + 1st at a minimum, I doubt there will be a lot of "B" prospects if he's traded.

Don’t get too cocky Conroy! I wonder if it is the Rangers then. Lindholm would be a great fit on the bruins as well but they don’t have much that is enticing

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I say it’s Detroit.

Edvinsson and a 1st?

Dunno why they'd do it but it's real good

[SuperMatt18]

Detroit would be my guess too.

Have some good young pieces but didn't really get that top C through the draft. Made a commitment to Larkin that they would try to win.

Have 2 1sts this year, 3 seconds this year, and 2 1sts next year.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I say it’s Detroit.

They have some interesting pieces, although they seem to be more 2-3 years futures, but are they good enough that Lindholm would want to commit to 8 years there if he has concerns with the Flames?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I say it’s Detroit.

Lindholm doesn’t put them over the top but I guess at some point they got to go for it

[Flames67]

Thank goodness for Sec214

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Man, some people here are going to lose it if Conroy doesn’t pick up an extra 2023 first rounder.

So glad you are here to make those with high expectations and hopes for the coming week feel bad about themselves if they feel disappointed.



You can never have enough judgy people, you know?

[NewFan]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

I don't think this is right. The information I have heard is that the hold up is negotiating a contract extension on at least one of the players for a sign and trade (or at least for a trade with an extension already negotiated through the agent). I got the impression that there is a lot of interest and the Flames know what they want... didn't get the impression at all that other GMs were lowballing a rookie (also with Don Mahoney on the calls I doubt GMs would even bother).

Reading between the lines, I think the players that do not want to extend here are behaving in a similar vein to Tkachuk because they have positive relationships with Conroy and the rest of management, so there is a cooperative effort to maximize return and to move these players to teams that they are comfortable with.

If the return is higher just trade them to which ever team possible. No need to think about the players' preference.