2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Toonage]

lol how is that better? No one established in the return. At least the Phaneuf deal had Stajan, Mayers, White etc

I guess a 1st?

[Bleeding Red]

Include 1st 2023 - #28
and maybe.

[Ashasx]

purely because of the 1st. The question I guess is whether you value that more than what Stajan did as a Flame

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

still is somehow better than the Phaneuf trade

The only difference is that the spare parts are prospects. Toffoli is worth a late 1st and b/c prospect. So they are getting Hanifin for Niemela, Timmins, and Steeves. I think it is worse

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

purely because of the 1st. The question I guess is whether you value that more than what Stajan did as a Flame

Fair. Its like we're deciding between which turd of a deal is more polished

[Ashes]

Lol you know its a s*** trade proposal when they don't even include their (late) 2023 1st in a trade for 2 guys that would immediately solidify their top-4 D and top-6 FW.

You can keep your garbage, thanks for the offer though chief.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Toonage

lol how is that better? No one established in the return. At least the Phaneuf deal had Stajan, Mayers, White etc

I guess a 1st?

The Phaneuf trade is the worst single trade in the history of the salary cap.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The Phaneuf trade is the worst single trade in the history of the salary cap.

Oh lord, how I wish this was true.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

St. Louis interests me more. They want to move Scandella, and need a center. How big would they be willing to go for Lindholm? #25, #28 and Jimmy Snuggerud?

I just want him so I can see jerseys with his name.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Oh lord, how I wish this was true.

It is - a 1st pairing D with 5 years of term left, a good prospect D and a valuable PK centre for a a bunch of replacement players, including Stajan.

No draft picks. Not one.

It didn’t make them better short term, it didn’t make them better long term, and they never turned any of the pieces they got into anything either.

For a guy who was nominated for the Norris a year earlier, and the 3rd Calder nominee with Sid and Ovechkin.

A complete and utter calamity in both value and results.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It is - a 1st pairing D with 5 years of term left, a good prospect D and a valuable PK centre for a a bunch of replacement players, including Stajan.

No draft picks. Not one.

It didn’t make them better short term, it didn’t make them better long term, and they never turned any of the pieces they got into anything either.

For a guy who was nominated for the Norris a year earlier, and the 3rd Calder nominee with Sid and Ovechkin.

A complete and utter calamity in both value and results.

Oh my sweet summer child. I want to live in your world.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Hot take! The Flames will come out of this next week, with a younger and more competitive team than last year.

Lol. Maybe but you may also be drinking the pickle juice

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It is - a 1st pairing D with 5 years of term left, a good prospect D and a valuable PK centre for a a bunch of replacement players, including Stajan.

No draft picks. Not one.

It didn’t make them better short term, it didn’t make them better long term, and they never turned any of the pieces they got into anything either.

For a guy who was nominated for the Norris a year earlier, and the 3rd Calder nominee with Sid and Ovechkin.

A complete and utter calamity in both value and results.

OEL enters the chat.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Oh my sweet summer child. I want to live in your world.

Provide at least one counter example, that makes this little sense, that achieves this scale.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Provide at least one counter example, that makes this little sense, that achieves this scale.

The Duchene trade is worse probably, Seth Jones deal is also terrible.

And then yeah the trade Vancouver made for OEL where you give up a 9th OV pick for a guy you bought out and guy you can't give away for free 2 years later.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by dammage79

OEL enters the chat.

That one’s bad, but that’s a player who was already dead weight. It’s a stupid trade, but it’s not worse than Phaneuf.

Phaneuf was having a bad year, after starting with four straight 47+ point seasons, sold for rubles on the dollar.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Provide at least one counter example, that makes this little sense, that achieves this scale.

The trade is one for one...

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

That one’s bad, but that’s a player who was already dead weight. It’s a stupid trade, but it’s not worse than Phaneuf.

Phaneuf was having a bad year, after starting with four straight 47+ point seasons, sold for rubles on the dollar.

The thing that saves the Phaneuf deal is that with benefit of hindsight the Flames sold at the right time.

They just sold for the wrong package.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And then yeah the trade Vancouver made for OEL where you give up a 9th OV pick for a guy you bought out and guy you can't give away for free 2 years later.

9th was for Garland.


The rest of the deal is still the Titan submarine of NHL deals.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Provide at least one counter example, that makes this little sense, that achieves this scale.

OEL + Garland + 9th. The Seth Jones trade was brutal. The Forsberg to Predators was awful. Tatar to Vegas was rough. Hall for Larsson

In hindsight the Phaneuf trade got better over time as well lol. It was terrible value at the time but kind of evened out in the end. Opposite of the Tkachuk trade lol.

I am not even sure the Phaneuf trade makes the top 10 bad list at this point.