2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

scandalous popinjay

Tomfoolery!

[memphusk]

To poke bogey!

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Tomfoolery!

Bally-hoo!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Never lead with your best offer.

What about:

Skinner - $3M retained for 1 year $1M retained final 3 years (can you even do that?)
Rosen
1st


Lindholm w/extension.
Markstrom

Never lead with your best offer? This is a message board, we're not leading with or conducting anything. W're guessing at what it would take to acquire pieces.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by Toonage

While I would love to see the team go down a full rebuild path, I understand that just isn't in the cards. Lindholm at lest, as has been mentioned by others and media, will likely age well over the duration of the contract. Basically morphing into what Backlund is now. And even around $8.5M, would still be what amounts to an ok cap hit in 6-7 years time I would think.

Lindholm doesn't help us compete for a playoff spot, yet alone the cup. I'd hate to see Conroy turn a major asset into another untradeable contract. Especially after preaching asset management.

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[stemit14]

With Boston likely losing Bergeron and Krejci this summer… I wonder what their plan is? They don’t have much for options at center right now and I assume their prospect pool is not that impressive. They don’t have a first round pick this year. I think Lindholm would be a good fit for them but I don’t think they have the assets to pull it off… especially if they need to include someone as a cap dump to make it work (likely someone like Taylor Hall). It would take multiple first round picks (2024 and 2025) from them to get Lindholm (IMO) if they want to be able to offer something competitive with teams that have a first round pick in this draft.

Hard to imagine them going full rebuild despite the fact that may be what they should do… they are in a similar position to the flames in that they are losing impact players very suddenly and it can quickly change the outlook of what is a good team. It’s worse for Boston though because they aren’t going to get anything for the players that are just retiring.


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[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by stemit14

With Boston likely losing Bergeron and Krejci this summer… I wonder what their plan is? They don’t have much for options at center right now and I assume their prospect pool is not that impressive. They don’t have a first round pick this year. I think Lindholm would be a good fit for them but I don’t think they have the assets to pull it off… especially if they need to include someone as a cap dump to make it work (likely someone like Taylor Hall). It would take multiple first round picks (2024 and 2025) from them to get Lindholm (IMO) if they want to be able to offer something competitive with teams that have a first round pick in this draft.

Hard to imagine them going full rebuild despite the fact that may be what they should do… they are in a similar position to the flames in that they are losing impact players very suddenly and it can quickly change the outlook of what is a good team. It’s worse for Boston though because they aren’t going to get anything for the players that are just retiring.


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Boston would have to give up both Lysell and Lohrei to get Lindy and I am not sure how they feel about that.

Getting back Taylor may help and he could certainly bounce back but I personally believe that another team will beat out any offer that Boston could muster up.

[Goriders]

You have to wonder what kind of reputation the Flames are going to have with players around the league when for two summers in a row multiple top players are demanding trades and/or refusing to resign.

Can’t be setting a good precedent.

[madmike]

Originally Posted by Goriders

You have to wonder what kind of reputation the Flames are going to have with players around the league when for two summers in a row multiple top players are demanding trades and/or refusing to resign.

Can’t be setting a good precedent.

I suspect it’s going to be ugly for a while.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by madmike

I suspect it’s going to be ugly for a while.

Same, going to be some damage control that needs to be done.

Could be a blessing in disguise though.

If the Flames stay away from big ticket free agents and everyone forces their way out then you get the chance to build from the ground up with players who want to play for the team.

Anyone who doesn't want to be there can leave, no room on the team for passengers.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Goriders

You have to wonder what kind of reputation the Flames are going to have with players around the league when for two summers in a row multiple top players are demanding trades and/or refusing to resign.

Can’t be setting a good precedent.

This is probably a big reason why Conny said he wants to focus more on drafting, which they already should’ve been doing anyways

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

With Boston likely losing Bergeron and Krejci this summer… I wonder what their plan is? They don’t have much for options at center right now and I assume their prospect pool is not that impressive. They don’t have a first round pick this year. I think Lindholm would be a good fit for them but I don’t think they have the assets to pull it off… especially if they need to include someone as a cap dump to make it work (likely someone like Taylor Hall). It would take multiple first round picks (2024 and 2025) from them to get Lindholm (IMO) if they want to be able to offer something competitive with teams that have a first round pick in this draft.

Hard to imagine them going full rebuild despite the fact that may be what they should do… they are in a similar position to the flames in that they are losing impact players very suddenly and it can quickly change the outlook of what is a good team. It’s worse for Boston though because they aren’t going to get anything for the players that are just retiring.


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Backlund would likely be a better trade target. Lindholm as you stated in your post is too much for them.

Hall + 2025 2nd/1st + Lysell + Reilly is what I’d ask for. The 2nd/1st based on Boston making the conf. Finals in 2024 or 2025. Calgary takes away 9m space and frees up 4.35m for Boston to sign more people. We can afford to do this and make Reilly the 7th man or bury him for a year.

There’s also the option of flipping Ullmark/Swayman in the deal if Boston wants that alternative.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So its starting to feel like...

Hanifin, Backlund, Toffoli to be traded
Lindholm to re-sign

And now that Nonis is on board and Dreger is back in the know, Mitch Love apparently is "circling back" to the Flames about joining the staff.

Busy week ahead.

Quick update

So its starting to feel like...

Everyone gone.

No Mitch Love but we do have Savard!

An even busier week ahead.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Dreger: The Canes and Jordan Staal are at a standstill.

Cue the Backlund or Lindholm trade proposals.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

+ 13 + Rosen and we can talk.

What about this, since Buffalo’s weakness is goal and Marky is Lindholm’s mate…

Lindholm - extended
Markstrom - $1M retained

Cozens
Comrie
Rosen
1st

I dunno, just spitballing.

Buffalo is weird, they don’t have a ton I want, even Cozens.

Cozens already outscored Lindholm last year and is 6 years younger

You have the plus on the wrong side

[Vinny01]

If the Flames are successful in moving these 4 players who won’t extend a move I would love to see them make is taking Blake Wheeler off the Jets hands full cap for some futures. He might be a great fit with Huberdeau and would be another asset to flip at the deadline

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If the Flames are successful in moving these 4 players who won’t extend a move I would love to see them make is taking Blake Wheeler off the Jets hands full cap for some futures. He might be a great fit with Huberdeau and would be another asset to flip at the deadline

I’d stay clear of him. With all the issues in the locker room in Winnipeg, last thing we need right now is someone that could bring those issues to our room.

Will be other opportunities to take on contracts for futures, if Conroy plays his cards right. Could pick up some of Huby’s buddies on the cheap. Hoffman in Montreal and Duclair in Florida might be cap casualties and have had success playing with huby in Florida. But all for taking on money if we are well compensated.

[Tkachukwagon]

Montreal is reportedly considering buying out Hoffman. Just my speculation but maybe Toffoli for Hoffman and pick 31 in the 2023 draft?

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

Montreal is reportedly considering buying out Hoffman. Just my speculation but maybe Toffoli for Hoffman and pick 31 in the 2023 draft?

I think the 31st pick in the draft is a pretty weak return for Toffoli alone but if we are taking on the Hoffman contract as well that is a really underwhelming return.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

Montreal is reportedly considering buying out Hoffman. Just my speculation but maybe Toffoli for Hoffman and pick 31 in the 2023 draft?

Better be getting the Flames first back in that deal as well. Same cost Tre paid to dump Monahan lol