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Old 06-22-2023, 02:30 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Dear Conroy and Murray, we'll stand behind a rebuild

Their hand may be forced in the coming weeks and months but a full fledged, scorched earth rebuild is a better alternative to overpaying vets who are on the fence about Calgary and the Flames.

Let's show management and ownership that they'll have our support to turn a new leaf and build the next core from the ground up.

This is the way!
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:37 PM   #2
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Default Dear Conroy and Murray, we'll stand behind a rebuild

Posted this in the trade speculation thread as well:

As rough as it can be to rebuild, it surprised us all last time how quickly the rebuild was. I know some would say it went too quickly last time (missing out on the McDavid draft)… but the flames still built a competitive team that looked like a real contender in the league. It didn’t work out but it shows that it could turn around pretty quickly.

The last time, the wild card that accelerated the flames’ rise out of a rebuild was that they already had a star/franchise player (Gaudreau) developing in the organization before they started their rebuild in 2013. While I don’t think the flames have a prospect/player in the system that will become an elite scorer of Gaudreau’s level at the moment… I think the flames do have a player in the system that could end up having a similar effect on accelerating the rebuild in Dustin Wolf.

Throughout the entire last rebuild, the flames never had reliable goaltending. For that entire time, goaltending was consistently their biggest weakness. If Wolf reaches his potential, the flames could have that piece solved early on in this rebuild (if it happens).

Huberdeau could act as the modern Hudler for this rebuild. Acting as a fantastic mentor and elite player for young players to play on a line with. Hudler was such a great fit with Gaudreau and Monahan in that 2014-2015 year. He was the type of player that made players better around him… exactly what you want for young players entering the league. I honestly believe Huberdeau could fit this mold perfectly as well.

Either way, the fans are prepared for a rebuild. Don’t be afraid to lean into it. Sign goons to beat the up on the oilers and protect the young guys… then let the kids play. We got your back Conroy/Iggy.


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Old 06-22-2023, 02:38 PM   #3
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:39 PM   #4
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Very exciting times to be a flames fan personally because finally they will (hopefully) be forced out of doing non-stop half measures.

Treliving was a disaster. A bad GM who was very good at managing upward and dealing with the media. Addition by subtraction.

Right now Conroy needs to be wary of Lindholm’s agent trying to take advantage of a new GM and get him to overpay.

You do it right or you don’t do it at all. Rebuild.
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Belief that the core group of Flames fans (ones that would find themselves on this site) would stand behind a rebuild, is likely well known by Edwards and Conny.

Core fan support is not something that would stop them from doing it (if they are actually afraid of doing it). Casual fan support, that directly correlates to team performance, and the revenue required from that group, is the barrier here.
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:40 PM   #6
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Will be interesting if they decide to go full rebuild or just a get younger retool.

I think this team could supprise some people even if they move alot of guys out.

The team still has alot of good pices.
Get some picks/prospects plus a couple good young pieces like krebs, boqvist or, rasmussen.

Give the young guys some opportunity. Maybe a guy like krebs or rasmussen pops off like hintz and tage thompson did.
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A rebuild is at this point, the most exciting thing they can do for the fans.

We don’t need playoffs every year (or every other year lol) to appreciate the direction of the team
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I support it as I no longer have season tickets and will follow this team regardless. I doubt I put my money where my mouth is and go to many games next year though. A rebuild is better than what we watched last year that’s for sure. Give me some young players to get excited about.
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I support it as I no longer have season tickets and will follow this team regardless. I doubt I put my money where my mouth is and go to many games next year though. A rebuild is better than what we watched last year that’s for sure. Give me some young players to get excited about.
Yeah, I am pretty sure the average non-CP Calgarian would be even more less inclined than you.
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:44 PM   #10
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No rebuilding team identifies as a team rebuilding.

I want a team that is rebuilding but identifies as a team that wants to just get in the playoffs and see what happens.
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I had a chance to come to Calgary to watch a Flames game live, I didn't because I wasn't a huge fan of the roster. If they rebuilt, I'd be more excited to come watch a game with young players.
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:45 PM   #12
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Get the team ready to be decent when the new arena opens
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Gonna be a tough sell for owners considering the current economic climate and already losing STH. I imagine, if they do want any sort of rebuild, they’d want it done and trending upwards ASAP for the new arena to increase STH.
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And if Seattle's rag tag group of young guys can go to round 2 game 7, then I don't see why that's not a possibility for a young Flames group that is well coached.

A playoff run like 2015 happens to teams in their rebuild infancy, and it's probably more probable in this division.
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I support the rebuild. The writing has been on the wall for a while now. Brad did his best to try to prolong it but it wasn’t enough. The time is now
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:51 PM   #17
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100 % on board, especially if the rumors are true these guys wants out

This franchise has had a lot of great players but IMO the list is very short when it comes to players who at some point in their career they were a top 5 calibre player in this league or considered one of the best in their position.

Iginla
MacInnis
Kipper

After that, we have had some really good players but not many that you would call the best of the best.

Rebuild to be a contender might take a few years but if done right we could have some fun players to watch sooner than 2-3 years.
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:52 PM   #18
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Gonna be a tough sell for owners considering the current economic climate and already losing STH. I imagine, if they do want any sort of rebuild, they’d want it done and trending upwards ASAP for the new arena to increase STH.
Then they'd better sell at this draft for players with elite skillsets that can make the jump to the NHL much sooner than later.
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Gonna be a tough sell for owners considering the current economic climate and already losing STH. I imagine, if they do want any sort of rebuild, they’d want it done and trending upwards ASAP for the new arena to increase STH.
the sports market has changed, I think many fans would prefer cheer for some up and comers. It has been nearly a decade since that was the case.
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I think the pitch to ownership is clear and that is to have a highly competitive product for day 1 of the new arena where prices are surely going to spike from ticket cost to concessions. Those price hikes are coming regardless but will be easier to stomach if there is a highly competitive team ready to open that building.

The focus should be an aggressive 4 year turnaround which requires some luck and a lot of draft picks working out. Best way to do it is draft a lot of players this year and next so they are 21-22 by the time the new rink opens. Ownership should definitely consider that compared to trying to win now after the Treebuild ended up in failure.
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