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Old 06-22-2023, 09:40 AM   #1681
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I would be happy if we could get a pick in the last third of the 1st round, nvm a mid-first. Still plenty of good players available there.
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Old 06-22-2023, 09:45 AM   #1682
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Sandman's latest 5 profiles added to Upside's profile page!

On Twitter account (@UpsideHockey) will be trying to get more Top 10 and Top 20 posts - probably got approx. 10-12 of these to post.

It's beginning to lot a lot like Draftmas
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:05 AM   #1683
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McKenzie's final rankings are out:

https://www.tsn.ca/intrigue-and-exci...raft-1.1976262
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Nate Danielson @16. Yes please.
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:14 AM   #1685
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Historically, the answer is yes. Many picks will be available to them. Especially if a Lindholm or Hanifin are on the table and you look at the UFA class this year.


Yes, teams will pony up.
I agree, because Hanifin and Lindholm are better than any UFA's, but far.

But those teams will need to feel extreme pressure to get a deal done prior to the draft, as each team would much prefer to give us 2024 draft picks.

But this is not a usual draft class, so looking at historical data on picks being exchanged for current assets may not be that relevant.
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:25 AM   #1686
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I always like Mackenzie's list, as I think his is always the closest to how it actually plays out with team selections - probably because it focuses more on consensus

I have no idea why, or reason to substantiate it, but I have had a feeling all along that we pick Danielson (and I do think we need to draft a C)

Would be awesome to get another pick in the 18-20 range and grab Simashev
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:27 AM   #1687
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Hope Danielson is prepared to no longer be an Oilers fan
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:31 AM   #1688
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I’d be happy with anyone in that top 16. ASP at 14 is only giving me hope he drops to us. I know he won’t
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:42 AM   #1689
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I always like Mackenzie's list, as I think his is always the closest to how it actually plays out with team selections - probably because it focuses more on consensus

I have no idea why, or reason to substantiate it, but I have had a feeling all along that we pick Danielson (and I do think we need to draft a C)

Would be awesome to get another pick in the 18-20 range and grab Simashev
Agreed - we may have gotten lucky (although E-Mac's hard work probably made his own luck), but for the 2022 draft, Upside's E-Mac's final rankings actually nailed down more prospects from the 1st round than even Bobby Margarita's list (only by 1 or 2 prospects mind you lol, but still...not bad).
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Updates to a few lists ... still sitting at 21 rankings.

Tier 1
1 Connor Bedard C 1.00
2 Adam Fantilli C 2.05
3 Matvei Michkov RW 3.57
4 Leo Carlsson C 3.81
5 Will Smith C 5.05

Tier 2 is really just Benson

6 Zach Benson F 7.29

Tier 3
7 Ryan Leonard C 9.24
8 Dalibor Dvorsky C 10.33
9 Oliver Moore C 11.52
10 Axel Sandin Pellikka D 12.14
11 David Reinbacher D 12.19

Flames Tier

12 Colby Barlow LW 15.62
13 Gabe Perreault RW 15.62
14 Matthew Wood F 16.29
15 Nate Danielson C 17.52
16 Eduard Sale RW 18.67
17 Brayden Yager C 20.14
18 Dmitri Simashev D 20.83
19 Samuel Honzek C 21.24
20 Quentin Musty LW 21.35
21 Andrew Cristall LW 21.52
22 Otto Stenberg C 22.00
23 Tom Willander D 22.58

Tier 5
24 Gavin Brindley RW 23.60
25 Mikhail Gulyayev D 23.76
26 Calum Ritchie C 24.75
27 Daniil But LW 24.95
28 Riley Heidt F 28.10

Likely for the Flames 2nd round pick ...

35 Michael Hrabal G 41.24
36 Tanner Molendyk D 41.35
37 Jayden Perron D 42.88
38 Kasper Halttunen RW 43.00
39 Charlie Stramel C 43.65
40 Nick Lardis LW 44.39
41 Koehn Ziemmer RW 45.72
42 Gracyn Sawchyn RW 45.88
43 Anton Wahlberg C 46.78
44 William Whitelaw C 47.65
45 Theo Lindstein D 48.68
46 Maxim Strbak C 50.06
47 Etienne Morin RW 51.29
48 Trey Augustine LW 51.71
49 Luca Cagnoni D 52.29
50 Kalan Lind F 53.40
51 Caden Price D 54.35
52 Carson Rehkopf LW 54.69
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what is the contract status of the other top Russians? If Michkov drops 5-8 spots due to contact and 'Russian factor', how much will the others drop? Have scouts seen these guys play as much or as little as they have seen Michkov?
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Those are sweet sweet words to read. Simashev is my favorite D prospect in this draft. To me he's a defenseman unicorn. Skates like Gaudreau but is 6'4". And that's not hyperbole, go watch his videos.


Now I really want the Flames to trade for another mid 1st. Simashev and a Center would be the best friggin outcome for the Flames at this stage.

One can dream.
Great post. I hadn’t watched him until you suggested it. Unreal player at that age. Does it all. Skating looked terrific.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:13 PM   #1693
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Nate Danielson @16. Yes please.

Watched some highlights and read some reviews on him. Reminds of Monahan with better wheels. Yes please.


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Watched some highlights and read some reviews on him. Reminds of Monahan with better wheels. Yes please.


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I thought the same thing, Mony with wheels and a two-way game, lol.
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Great post. I hadn’t watched him until you suggested it. Unreal player at that age. Does it all. Skating looked terrific.
Major untapped offensive game lurking just below the surface, waiting to explode.
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Nate Danielson @16. Yes please.
Still my fave for our pick.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:31 PM   #1697
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I thought the same thing, Mony with wheels and a two-way game, lol.

In the range where the flames are picking, he seems like the safest pick. That’s why I would love for the flames to find a way to acquire another 1st round pick in that range (13th to 18th overall) so they could do both the safe pick (Danielson/Yager) and the riskier pick (Sale/Wood/Perreault/Cristall).


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Old 06-22-2023, 12:31 PM   #1698
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It may be the BCHL Makar factor, but I have this weird feeling that Bradly Nadeau is going to end up being a steal either late 1st or early 2nd, his game looks so refined.
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I watch approximately zero CHL hockey, and these highlights are a very small sample, so I have no clue whether this is accurate, but what stands out to me is how he attacks from the outside a lot. He's big and can skate, so why isn't he driving the center of the ice more? He's clearly a good skater, but doesn't have McDavid level speed so he's not going to be able to beat NHL defensemen outside consistently.
We desperately need a few skilled players that can drive the center of the ice. No more guys who play on the periphery.
Danielson does attack the middle, it’s part of his game, but in those clips he’s manipulating the middle of the ice by drawing defenders to him, and /or faking shots/passes, thereby opening space in the middle to pass to teammates. Manipulation, deception, and exploitation, lol.
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It may be the BCHL Makar factor, but I have this weird feeling that Bradly Nadeau is going to end up being a steal either late 1st or early 2nd, his game looks so refined.
One of the top-5 shots in the draft.
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