06-21-2023, 03:47 PM
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#141
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Yeah sorry, if they asked for clarification over the weekend and haven't received it, it's time to move on.
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06-21-2023, 03:52 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I put way more stock into what Friedman says about the Flames than Seravalli. Actually Dreger now too since Nonis is in the Flames org.
Seravalli hasn't really gotten anything right about the Flames that I can recall.
But yeah...
If what the Friedman says is true and they are having promising contract discussions then I think you can hang on to Lindholm.
But if what Seravalli says is true and there is no real commitment reform Lindholm being open to staying then they should be holding an auction for Hanifin and Lindholm.
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06-21-2023, 04:04 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
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We're about to find out if Conroy learned anything from Treliving's folly as GM. Set a deadline and then move on if the other party doesn't respond.
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06-21-2023, 04:29 PM
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#144
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Lifetime Suspension
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The Vegas Golden Knights in the past 5 season went to the Cup finals, twice to the Conference finals are we now pretending they weren't expected to win/compete for the Stanley Cup because of one injury filled season?
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06-21-2023, 04:33 PM
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#145
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Username: Flames
The Knights had a bunch of injuries last year and have a bonafide superstar that the flames should have traded for. The flames have no stars anymore. Huberdeau is not a star. Neither is Kadri. They're both complimentary players. Like Tangauy was for Iginla.
This team is a bunch of Tangauys and No Iginlas! We lost our stars. You can't win without star power, in my opinion.
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Lol, before this last season Huberdeau most definitely was a star. 115 points and he's not a star? He was a lock to play on team Canada at the Olympics had they gone.
We heard all the same whining and crying on here after the 20-21 season about how the Flames should rebuild. Then they easily won the division. I definitely haven't given up on this group yet. A lot of things went wrong last year. I'm excited for the upcoming season.
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06-21-2023, 04:34 PM
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#146
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
The Vegas Golden Knights in the past 5 season went to the Cup finals, twice to the Conference finals are we now pretending they weren't expected to win/compete for the Stanley Cup because of one injury filled season?
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The Flames are on the other end of the spectrum. Missed the playoffs this year. Lost their star players last year and now have no stars. This core is not going to win the championship.
People make fun of the Canucks here a lot, but I would rather have their young, talented core to build around than this aging, starless core of complimentary players.
You need stars to win. If anyone thinks Huberdeau or Kadri are stars, they didn't watch any games last year.
I hope the flames trade lindholm and Hanifin. I really, really do.
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06-21-2023, 04:37 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
The big question is ... what does "won't go in with 7 UFAs" mean?
6 is ok?
5?
only 1 or 2?
can't with the big two?
He can be right by walking all of the big 5 to free agency by extending either of Zadorov or Kylington for a season.
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Maybe he's looking to add more and is hoping to have 8, 9, or 10?
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06-21-2023, 04:45 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
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Lindholm should be open to signing a contract in principle by the draft and make it official like Dahlin. I don’t see what really changes between now and the start of the season that would make him leave or stay if it is known Hanifin wants out. If his expectation to sign is that the majority of Tanev, Toffoli, Zadorov, Backlund, and Kylington are held into the season and then see how it goes then the Flames have to cut bait.
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06-21-2023, 04:49 PM
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#149
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Lifetime Suspension
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Lindholm doesn't move the needle at all. I don't understand what we're running back. To hope everything goes right and improves to make the playoffs and maybe make it out of the first round? We arent a contender. Why turn another huge asset into another untradeable contract?
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06-21-2023, 04:50 PM
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#150
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
We heard all the same whining and crying on here after the 20-21 season about how the Flames should rebuild. Then they easily won the division. I definitely haven't given up on this group yet. A lot of things went wrong last year. I'm excited for the upcoming season.
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Easily won the division and went how far in the play-offs?
is that the goal for this franchise division wins and play-off flame outs?
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06-21-2023, 05:00 PM
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#151
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
We're about to find out if Conroy learned anything from Treliving's folly as GM. Set a deadline and then move on if the other party doesn't respond.
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Conroy’s in a no-lose scenario.
He doesn’t have to overpay - he either gets the guys he wants back at the number he wants, or he uses the return from seven UFAs to remake the team in his image.
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06-21-2023, 05:16 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Conroy’s in a no-lose scenario.
He doesn’t have to overpay - he either gets the guys he wants back at the number he wants, or he uses the return from seven UFAs to remake the team in his image.
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That is the optimistic viewpoint. He could also trade Hanifin and then hope the other UFAs re-sign based on a good year. I just don't think he'll be allowed to trade anyone at the deadline if they are in a playoff spot
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06-21-2023, 05:27 PM
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#153
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Powerplay Quarterback
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If Lindholm signs then Hanifin will be traded for a roster player. Hanifin + 16th for Nylander?
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06-21-2023, 05:31 PM
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#154
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Huber-Lindy-Nylander
Mangi-Kadri-Coronato
Dube-Backlund-Pelletier
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06-21-2023, 05:33 PM
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#155
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewFan
If Lindholm signs then Hanifin will be traded for a roster player. Hanifin + 16th for Nylander?
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why would the Flames need to add? they are comparable players when you take into account their positions.
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06-21-2023, 05:45 PM
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#156
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by NewFan
If Lindholm signs then Hanifin will be traded for a roster player. Hanifin + 16th for Nylander?
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you're overvaluing Nylander. He like Hanifin, has one year before he hits UFA. Extension likely $9M plus, and whether he'd even consider re signing is another story.
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06-21-2023, 05:53 PM
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#157
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by NewFan
If Lindholm signs then Hanifin will be traded for a roster player. Hanifin + 16th for Nylander?
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Jesus Christ, no
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06-21-2023, 05:55 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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I would do Hanifin for Nylander, straight up.
I wouldn't do Nylander for the 16OA, simply because we don't need another UFA winger.
But BOTH? Christ.
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06-21-2023, 06:07 PM
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#159
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I would do Hanifin for Nylander, straight up.
I wouldn't do Nylander for the 16OA, simply because we don't need another UFA winger.
But BOTH? Christ.
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Not me.
In my mind if/when they deal him it has to be for a player AND a future, either a pick or a decent young guy, preferably a developing dman.
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06-21-2023, 06:09 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Not me.
In my mind if/when they deal him it has to be for a player AND a future, either a pick or a decent young guy, preferably a developing dman.
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And I wasn't saying it as a trade I would want to see, simply an exercise in value.
For a trade I would actually want, I agree with you.
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